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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3000 on: June 30, 2020, 11:55:01 AM »
I don't think that's correct, at least not at the present time. There are a half-dozen clinics in Montreal and they're free, per this page.
You need to have symptoms.... otherwise it costs. Nobody has symptoms now and over pesach we had to pay$200.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3001 on: June 30, 2020, 12:00:55 PM »
Not sure about Toronto, but in Montreal there's a bus that went around offering testing for $200
Was it being driven by a pigeon?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3002 on: June 30, 2020, 12:04:11 PM »
You need to have symptoms.... otherwise it costs. Nobody has symptoms now and over pesach we had to pay$200.
Symptoms or exposure is required in order to get tested, but the testing is free. Perhaps it’s possible to get tested for $200 privately as well. That is exactly the same as the vast majority of the US right now (which is only conducting ~500K total tests a day) and presumably the world.

No, you can’t just get tested if you like brain-picks. Outside of NY and NJ, you’d be hard pressed to find a place that you can.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3003 on: June 30, 2020, 12:05:16 PM »
At that time he didn’t know that such a large percentage of CH was exposed, so he had no reason to assume they would be outliers. The only thing he got right was that CH was extremely exposed, but they didn’t need him for that accomplishment anyway

Have you spoken to him? Do you know what he knew or didn’t know at the time? And if it was 60% or 50% or even 35% would it have made a difference?

I heard someone (IINM from John Hopkins) that contact tracing can be effective if positive ratio is up to 5%.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3004 on: June 30, 2020, 12:10:11 PM »
Have you spoken to him? Do you know what he knew or didn’t know at the time? And if it was 60% or 50% or even 35% would it have made a difference?

I heard someone (IINM from John Hopkins) that contact tracing can be effective if positive ratio is up to 5%.
You said it was immediately after Purim. You also said based on what was known then. What exactly is your question now? Are you saying that immediately after Purim he knew that CH was super exposed but nobody else did? And he advocated that all but the old should keep on mixing but then changed his mind within a week?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3005 on: June 30, 2020, 12:11:27 PM »
You said it was immediately after Purim. You also said based on what was known then. What exactly is your question now? Are you saying that immediately after Purim he knew that CH was super exposed but nobody else did? And he advocated that all but the old should keep on mixing but then changed his mind within a week?
Did I say anywhere that he changed his mind?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3006 on: June 30, 2020, 12:15:08 PM »
Didn't follow the news here in a while.

Is the new virus found in pigs in China being discussed anywhere?

I just read about it and it's sending chills down my spine.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3007 on: June 30, 2020, 12:15:34 PM »
Did I say anywhere that he changed his mind?
You didn’t, but by stressing *at that time* I assumed he changed his mind. Did he? Did he push to keep everything open all along?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3008 on: June 30, 2020, 12:22:08 PM »
Didn't follow the news here in a while.

Is the new virus found in pigs in China being discussed anywhere?

I just read about it and it's sending chills down my spine.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/505133-chinese-researchers-warn-of-swine-flu-strain%3famp
Wonder which country it originated from?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3009 on: June 30, 2020, 12:24:18 PM »
Wonder which country it originated from?
Deserves a thread on its own.
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« Reply #3010 on: June 30, 2020, 12:25:36 PM »
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« Reply #3012 on: June 30, 2020, 01:45:01 PM »
You didn’t, but by stressing *at that time* I assumed he changed his mind. Did he? Did he push to keep everything open all along?

1. Don't assume.
2. IDK if he changed his mind. It became a moot point due to state imposed regulations.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3013 on: June 30, 2020, 01:47:13 PM »
NJ Dept of Health doubles number of states with COVID19 travel restrictions to 16:
Alabama
Arkansas
Arizona
California
Florida
Georgia
Iowa
Idaho
Louisiana
Mississippi
North Carolina
Nevada
South Carolina
Tennessee
Texas
Utah

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/new-jersey-quarantine-nj-states-yorkers-returning-home/6284542/
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« Reply #3014 on: June 30, 2020, 01:47:20 PM »
1. Don't assume.
2. IDK if he changed his mind. It became a moot point due to state imposed regulations.
Shuls in CH closed before they were State mandated, did they not?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3015 on: June 30, 2020, 01:49:42 PM »
Shuls in CH closed before they were State mandated, did they not?
Source?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3016 on: June 30, 2020, 01:50:32 PM »
Source?
DDF

ETA: Also, I’m seeking confirmation. If they didn’t, please let us know.
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« Reply #3017 on: June 30, 2020, 01:58:12 PM »
DDF
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3018 on: June 30, 2020, 02:23:57 PM »
Source?
*Joint Statement from the Crown Heights Schools*

Dear Crown Heights Parents שיחיו,

As of this morning, there are 3 confirmed cases of COVID-19 positive cases in the Crown Heights Community. All are doing well, but they each have had a very extensive exposure to the community. There are many young people presenting with mild flu-like symptoms who have been tested and are awaiting results.

All the schools in Crown Heights had a joint conference call this morning at 10am with professionals and Rabbonim. We were advised that all local schools be closed because we expect a very large outbreak in the community based on the trends seen all over the world.

All Crown Heights schools will be closed as of 12pm today until further notice.

There is no reason for panic or worry. We simply must take action to keep the vulnerable members of our community safe. Professionals advised that young children should not visit the elderly and that everyone should take extra precautions and stay home as much as possible.

It is very important to note that many children who are carrying the virus will not even appear sick. We need to keep them home regardless to stop the spread.

This is an ongoing situation and we will do our best to keep the community updated on new policies and when we can re-open.

Wishing everyone a Gut Shabbos and Besuros Tovos,

The Crown Heights Schools
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3019 on: June 30, 2020, 02:39:52 PM »
The us had already lost the fight against the virus by the time Purim came around. That’s why “flatten the curve” was the only option.
@Afrages6
How do you explain the graph in this article? https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/europe/european-union-travel-us-graphic-intl/index.html
Or is this somehow fake news?
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