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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3840 on: January 01, 2021, 12:55:15 PM »
Gonna have to do better than that.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3841 on: January 01, 2021, 12:56:52 PM »
I haven’t been keeping up with LA data too much. Anyone know why this is ?

https://abc7.com/health/more-people-without-underlying-conditions-dying-from-covid-in-la-county/9238193/
Does the article say it went from 90% to 86%? I don't think that difference is so significant, it may be caused by different recording practices. Perhaps more of the close-to-dead people in risky places already got it early on, leaving a smaller amount of them leftover, and more capable of protective measures. I.e. if there was more spread in nursing homes, more people will be dying there with underlying conditions.
״וזה כלל גדול: שישנא אדם כל דבר שקר. וכל מה שיוסיף שנאה לדרכי השקר – יוסיף אהבה לתורה.״ - אורחות צדיקים

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3842 on: January 01, 2021, 12:58:20 PM »
As opposed to early 2020 ?
Lol I didn't read the article and misunderstood the headline. My bad.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3843 on: January 01, 2021, 01:02:21 PM »
Gonna have to do better than that.

Didn't really read the article so never mind the smog theory.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3844 on: January 04, 2021, 07:13:52 AM »
Dr Zelenko will be talking tonight at the event starting at 7pm.
Zoom link in the blog.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3845 on: January 04, 2021, 08:07:34 AM »
Dr Zelenko will be talking tonight at the event starting at 7pm.
Zoom link in the blog.

https://healthycrownheights.blogspot.com

The flyer reads “is the COVID vaccine right for you?”. Is Zelenko an anti-vaxxer too?
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3846 on: January 04, 2021, 08:11:57 AM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/875084-i-let-my-guard-down-and-got-covid-19-this-is-what-its-like/
What a stupid article.
It's not so scary, but it's basically death ::)
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3847 on: January 04, 2021, 08:17:24 AM »
The flyer reads “is the COVID vaccine right for you?”. Is Zelenko an anti-vaxxer too?
He's already stated quite definitively (2 weeks ago) that the vaccine possibly doesn't work on the UK variant, but HCQ does. 

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3848 on: January 04, 2021, 08:21:58 AM »
The flyer reads “is the COVID vaccine right for you?”. Is Zelenko an anti-vaxxer too?
In one of his previous videos he says clearly he is pro-vaccine.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3849 on: January 04, 2021, 08:22:10 AM »
He's already stated quite definitively (2 weeks ago) that the vaccine possibly doesn't work on the UK variant, but HCQ does.

"quite definitively"

"possibly"

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3850 on: January 04, 2021, 08:24:42 AM »
He's already stated quite definitively (2 weeks ago) that the vaccine possibly doesn't work on the UK variant, but HCQ does. 

“Possibly” 🙄
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3851 on: January 04, 2021, 08:24:54 AM »
"quite definitively"

"possibly"
Watch the video and you'll understand what I mean. Quite funny actually.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3852 on: January 04, 2021, 08:41:40 AM »
He's already stated quite definitively (2 weeks ago) that the vaccine possibly doesn't work on the UK variant, but HCQ does.
How could he “possibly” know such a thing 2 weeks ago ?

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« Reply #3853 on: January 04, 2021, 08:46:27 AM »
How could he “possibly” know such a thing 2 weeks ago ?
I wish his account wasn't suspended - the video would be better. To paraphrase: the new UK variant is very concerning because the vaccine may not work for it, but HCQ definitely works on it because the way it replicates is the same.

He doesn't mention how he came to this conclusion of "vaccine may not work, HCQ definitely works." But he's seemingly very comfortable opining on the vaccine.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3854 on: January 04, 2021, 08:47:08 AM »
I wish his account wasn't suspended - the video would be better. To paraphrase: the new UK variant is very concerning because the vaccine may not work for it, but HCQ definitely works on it because the way it replicates is the same.

He doesn't mention how he came to this conclusion of "vaccine may not work, HCQ definitely works." But he's seemingly very comfortable opining on the vaccine.
It's amazing that people give him a forum
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3855 on: January 04, 2021, 08:58:08 AM »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/875084-i-let-my-guard-down-and-got-covid-19-this-is-what-its-like/
What a stupid article.
It's not so scary, but it's basically death ::)
I didn’t see it this way. She makes very important points.
1) How serious this is. Even a “mild” case. People still think it’s just a flu.
2) The responsibly to inform those you’ve been in close contact with.
This might sound very obvious yet many ignore it. I’m constantly hearing from people how they already had it months ago. Yet they never bothered to tell me back then. Could’ve spared me a lot of trouble.

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3856 on: January 04, 2021, 10:00:39 AM »
How could he “possibly” know such a thing 2 weeks ago ?

I watched the video when it came out. At the time the question of whether the vaccine would work on the new variant was being widely discussed and he referenced that discussion. He then said that even after the mutation the virus works the same way so HCQ will work.

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« Reply #3857 on: January 04, 2021, 10:04:58 AM »
I watched the video when it came out. At the time the question of whether the vaccine would work on the new variant was being widely discussed and he referenced that discussion. He then said that even after the mutation the virus works the same way so HCQ will work.
If the virus “works the same way” then why wouldn’t the vaccine work ?

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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3858 on: January 04, 2021, 10:11:44 AM »
If the virus “works the same way” then why wouldn’t the vaccine work ?
He wasn't the one who invented the doubt on whether or not the vaccine would work. The vaccine doesn't have the actual virus, it tells the body to make some of the proteins that surround the virus which the body learns to make antibodies against. If the body then comes in contact with the virus the body recognizes the proteins and launches an attack. Because the mutations were in some of the proteins, it wasn't unreasonable to ask if the vaccine will still be effective.
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Re: COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread
« Reply #3859 on: January 04, 2021, 10:17:26 AM »
He wasn't the one who invented the doubt on whether or not the vaccine would work. The vaccine doesn't have the actual virus, it tells the body to make some of the proteins that surround the virus which the body learns to make antibodies against. If the body then comes in contact with the virus the body recognizes the proteins and launches an attack. Because the mutations were in some of the proteins, it wasn't unreasonable to ask if the vaccine will still be effective.
Yet HCQ would definitely work. I’m no dr., just trying to understand.