COVID-19 (Wuhan Novel Coronavirus) Pandemic Master Thread

[Dan]

https://twitter.com/DansDeals/status/1407419990492471303

[Dan]

I believe people who have been vaccinated in Israel do *not* need to check for antibodies, because their information is confirmed in the database. If true, that completely undermines whatever point you are trying to make.

Correct

[Ellen]

Because people have no qualms forging a vaccine card.

So then why do they need the vaccine to begin with? Why not just test for antibodies?

[Dan]

So then why do they need the vaccine to begin with? Why not just test for antibodies?

Trust but verify. Clearly they believe the vaccine is more effective than recovery.

[Iz]

Is the state of emergency in NJ that outlawed (!) returning food to stores, still in effect? My Google search returned nothing.

[avromie7]

I'm pretty sure there was never such a law it was talked about and stores decided to take advantage of it as many businesses have tried taking advantage of covid...

Nope. It definitely was the law.

[4yourinfo]

Nope. It definitely was the law.

Your right looks like it was bill A3865
3. It shall be an unlawful practice and a violation of P.L.1960, c.39 (C.56:8-1 et seq.) for any retail food store to accept the return of any groceries and other foodstuffs purchased by a consumer during, and for 30 days following, a state of emergency declared in response to COVID-19. A retail food store may accept the return of groceries and other foodstuffs if it determines, in its sole discretion, that the groceries and other foodstuffs are unsafe for use or otherwise adulterated within the meaning of R.S.24:5-8 as a result of any manufacturing error or defect. Any groceries or other foodstuffs accepted for return by a retail food store shall not be offered for resale.

But it was only food...

[Iz]

Your right looks like it was bill A3865
3. It shall be an unlawful practice and a violation of P.L.1960, c.39 (C.56:8-1 et seq.) for any retail food store to accept the return of any groceries and other foodstuffs purchased by a consumer during, and for 30 days following, a state of emergency declared in response to COVID-19. A retail food store may accept the return of groceries and other foodstuffs if it determines, in its sole discretion, that the groceries and other foodstuffs are unsafe for use or otherwise adulterated within the meaning of R.S.24:5-8 as a result of any manufacturing error or defect. Any groceries or other foodstuffs accepted for return by a retail food store shall not be offered for resale.

But it was only food...

I'm pretty sure it included health and beauty items as well. Regardless, does anyone know if it was rescinded yet?

[yuneeq]

I'm pretty sure it included health and beauty items as well. Regardless, does anyone know if it was rescinded yet?

IINM all state of emergency laws were ditched except the ones Murphy explicitly singled out. And would guess he didn't single this out.

[Iz]

IINM all state of emergency laws were ditched except the ones Murphy explicitly singled out. And would guess he didn't single this out.

Thanks. Costco said that the law is still in effect until July 4, but they are already accepting returns as a courtesy to their members. I was able to return today in Walmart. So it seems that it is a bit iffy for the next little while.

[Dan]

https://m.twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923

[AsherO]

https://m.twitter.com/jbloom_lab/status/1407445604029009923

Following.

[PlatinumGuy]

[PlatinumGuy]

When you say it will be back, to what degree? Are we looking at 100k cases/day in the US? 1k deaths/day? Do you think the vaccines are ineffective against the Indian variant, or do you think we won't have enough people vaccinated?

Judging by the UK & Israel data it seems clear the US will hit 100k cases/day soon. (Your prediction of a fourth wave will materialize just after it seemed to have been off table). I would say very likely 500 deaths/days  and possibly 1000-1500, the main variable is how the new wave will influence vaccination hesitancy.

Israel is doubling every 2-4 days. UK is at 150 cases per million today while the US is at 35. The US has better vaccines but less quarantine adherence and etc

Interestingly, the UK still has less new hospitalizations, likely because the US has larger pockets of unvaccinated people whom are hit harder than the UKs Delta variant hits vaccinated people.

It's easy to blame the politicians, but the real problem is they aren't responding fast enough.

[AsherO]

Judging by the UK & Israel data it seems clear the US will hit 100k cases/day soon. (Your prediction of a fourth wave will materialize just after it seemed to have been off table). I would say very likely 500 deaths/days  and possibly 1000-1500, the main variable is how the new wave will influence vaccination hesitancy.

Israel is doubling every 2-4 days. UK is at 150 cases per million today while the US is at 35. The US has better vaccines but less quarantine adherence and etc

Interestingly, the UK still has less new hospitalizations, likely because the US has larger pockets of unvaccinated people whom are hit harder than the UKs Delta variant hits vaccinated people.

It's easy to blame the politicians, but the real problem is they aren't responding fast enough.

The amazing thing is that if everyone might would die in this fourth wave went out and got vaccinated today, some of their lives would be spared.

[S209]

The amazing thing is that if everyone might would die in this fourth wave went out and got vaccinated today, the great majority of their lives would be spared.

FTFY

[AsherO]

FTFY

That would depend on wave’s timing and efficacy of one dose at the interval between dose and infection, I was being conservative.

[hvaces42]

...and so it begins.

A few who were vaccinated in January tested positive today with pretty bad symptoms.

[TimT]

...and so it begins.

A few who were vaccinated in January tested positive today with pretty bad symptoms.

Which symptoms ?

[Lurker]

...and so it begins.

A few who were vaccinated in January tested positive today with pretty bad symptoms.

Link?