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« Reply #100 on: May 05, 2023, 03:39:25 AM »
An interesting take, if a bit naïve.

https://kotaku.com/pc-gaming-gamers-ea-activision-steam-angry-mad-valve-1850397771

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PC Gamers Are Getting Angry At All The Wrong People
Everything feels increasingly broken and expensive, and there's frustration in the air
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If you’ve been even remotely connected to PC gaming over the last year or two, you’d have felt some heat radiating off the community. A rising sense of frustration, that things are bad and just keep getting worse. Many PC gamers feel like they’re reaching a breaking point, and it’s hard not to sympathize.

The PC gaming market has been hit by a number of perfect storms lately, and they all seem to have coalesced in 2023 to create a huge cloud of Bad Vibes, the effects of which are being felt especially at the pricier, AAA end of the market.

First, the pandemic did an absolute number on graphics cards, sending Nvidia mad and leading to three years of releases and prices that are way beyond the pale for most reasonable folks. Then some blockbuster games dropped that didn’t run very well. Then some more. Then more. Once-beloved studios have been gutted by years of mismanagement and turnover (those two things are related). All the while prices for games have crept up, and DRM continues to haunt—and adversely affect the performance of—so many games.

Everything is bad. And gamers want someone to blame. So they take it out on supposedly lazy developers, they take it out on QA who should have caught those bugs, they crucify company executives who are only in the business to make a gamer’s life worse. They even blame each other, pointing fingers at those who keep buying broken and bad games at launch (or, even worse, before launch), which is only encouraging all this.

There’s an incoherence to the anger, though. Punches being swung in the dark. There’s a general tension, a sensation that the walls are closing in, that each day will bring a fresh new horror. Compounding this is an air of hopelessness, that people have been complaining about these issues for months, years, decades, to no avail. Parties and people are blamed, but nothing ever seems to stick, or make a difference. But the need to punch something is there, so the punches keep flying regardless.

It can feel like every major PC release is bad, but complicating matters is the fact no two bad releases are bad for quite the same reasons. The Last Of Us is a bad port, not a bad game. Cyberpunk’s woes stemmed as much from unfocused game direction as bugs. Battlefield 2042 was pushed out in the middle of a global pandemic. Star Wars Jedi: Survivor seems to run just fine for loads of people, but not for those with the best hardware, who are also the most likely to complain about it online. Redfall feels like a game made to fulfil a contractual obligation, not because anyone at Arkane actually thought it was any good.

The problem is games being rushed out before they’re finished, before they’re properly tested on a wide range of hardware. The problem is that a new console generation—the PS5's architecture especially—has presented a fresh set of challenges to multiplatform developers and port studios alike. The problem is that game development is getting more and more expensive. The problem is that management at major publishers and graphics card manufacturers are beholden to shareholders, who demand constant growth, and the only way to ensure that is to increase profits while slashing costs.

The problem is that video games are really hard to make.

Like I said, a perfect storm. That’s a lot of things to be trending downwards at the same time, making it easy to sympathise with a disgruntled PC gamer at the moment, or at least those interested in the blockbuster side of the market (smaller games from smaller teams using less resources aren’t anywhere near as impacted by all this). I say this because I am also primarily a PC gamer, and also very upset about all this—the graphics card bullshit especially—but also because I empathise with the frustration that there doesn’t seem to be any way out of this.

Some of these problems can be resolved in due time. The console porting stuff especially; I feel like a lot of people feeling angry at bad PC versions of console games right now weren’t around 10-15 years ago, when multiplatform releases on PC were just as bad, if not worse. Console generations don’t always sync up neatly with advances in PC horsepower, which leads to messy ports. We’ve been here before. We’ll get through this.

The rest, though, they’re all just a part of wider trends, which have been sliding this way for decades but are seemingly only now at the point where gamers have moved from being upset to being truly angry. EA and Activision shareholders aren’t ever going to collectively decide “OK, that’s enough growth, we’re good now”. The bigger and more expensive video game budgets get—a natural consequence of gaming’s own insatiable need for expansion (in graphical fidelity and world size)—the more those publishers chasing growth are going to squeeze us on things like retail prices, season passes, DRM and downloadable content. And so long as Nvidia controls so much of the graphics card market, they’ll be free to do—and charge—what they want.

Trying to blame developers, platforms, companies or even individual executives is like yelling at clouds. You think Andrew Wilson is doing terrible things as EA’s CEO? I guarantee you the next person taking his place will do exactly the same shit. He, and every other person in a leadership position at a major video game company, are simply doing their jobs to the letter.

The only thing every factor listed above has in common is that they’re all issues produced by and indebted to a system designed to bleed you dry in the name of ever-expanding growth. Every major company is getting squeezed by shareholders, and so that company’s management will continue in turn to squeeze its own workers and then squeeze you, harder and harder, because that’s how this all works. Endless growth doesn’t appear in a vacuum, it comes from increased gains and reduced expenditure. Or, in video games—an industry as defined by layoffs as it is record profits—both at the same time.

There’s no escape from this. The machine is doing exactly what it was designed to do. Hoping for some kind of AAA miracle, that every executive at every major publisher and hardware manufacturer is going to have a collective epiphany and take things back to whatever way you think they were, is the definition of insanity. There’s no way to get around blockbuster PC gaming’s downward trend other than bailing on it altogether, and taking solace in the fact that, unlike most other platforms, the PC is actually capable of supporting a diverse and thriving independent development scene (largely thanks to Steam, whose business model is a whole other story). Because the only message a games company hears when its broken games sell are that its broken games will sell.

I get that people are angry, but it might be time to stop getting angry at the trees and try getting angry at the forest instead. And if that doesn’t make you feel better, you can always just walk away from the woods.
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Re: computer games
« Reply #101 on: May 28, 2023, 11:25:13 AM »
Reviews are pouring in, showing in all my RSS feeds, for the new game Lord of the Rings: Gollum. I can't ever remember such a collection of negative reviews for one game without anyone disagreeing. The most articulate example comes from IGN, and I will post the intro paragraph for you:



There were less articulate articles, such as "Do we WANTS this game, precious? We do NOTs."
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Re: computer games
« Reply #102 on: June 29, 2023, 11:18:48 PM »
A number of digital versions of board games are on sale on Steam as part of their summer sale.
Partial list here (and a post 1 or 2 down about Aeon's End): https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/3108794/article/42537650#42537650
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Re: computer games
« Reply #103 on: July 24, 2023, 10:15:36 AM »
anybody can recommend a good gaming device that the kids like but no wifi these days?

I think in the past the old old DS's some did not have wifi capability way back in the days

i was thinking of a handheld game console that maybe someone here has a good experience with etc.. tricky part is something that lasts and good quality and is able to satisfy their interest ages from lime 8-13
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Re: computer games
« Reply #104 on: July 24, 2023, 12:15:41 PM »
anybody can recommend a good gaming device that the kids like but no wifi these days?

I think in the past the old old DS's some did not have wifi capability way back in the days

i was thinking of a handheld game console that maybe someone here has a good experience with etc.. tricky part is something that lasts and good quality and is able to satisfy their interest ages from lime 8-13
There are companies that sell game emulators. I'm not familiar with any of them. Something like the powkiddy x55
I'm sure some don't have wifi.

Two things to note.
One, I can't stress this enough. Make sure there's a time limit built in. This is coming from someone that used to play games pretty much everyday whenever I had free time. I wouldn't want that for my kids.

Two I don't condone using games on emulators if you didn't own them at one point.

Three (I know) if they do play games id recommend you playing with them for a few minutes. At least there will be some bonding time. Speak to your rov if that's your thing
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Re: computer games
« Reply #105 on: September 05, 2023, 08:31:40 PM »
Free on the Epic Games Store until midday December 10: Cave Story (side-scrolling action/adventure).

It's free again this week (until 11 AM Thursday), possibly in an updated edition. Next week: Spelldrifter, which "combines the puzzle-like positional tactics of a turn-based RPG with the customizability and replayability of a collectible card game."
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Re: computer games
« Reply #106 on: November 21, 2023, 11:12:25 AM »
Currently free on the EGS (until 11 AM Thursday):
Earthlock, an RPG "inspired by the classic 3D RPGs of the late 90's, with a fresh take on turn based
combat and character progression" and the post-apocalyptic city-building game Surviving the Aftermath.

The following week, it's the "atmospheric sci-fi adventure" Deliver Us Mars.
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Re: computer games
« Reply #107 on: January 22, 2024, 01:53:08 PM »
Maybe clickbait. Claims from multiple sources that Walmart is getting rid of physical copies of Starfield. Before they throw them out, they may sell them in store for 3 cents. Anyone feel up to looking? (No idea if game is kosher.)
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/one-mans-trash-is-another-mans-treasure-walmart-will-reportedly-throw-out-physical-copies-of-starfield-if-no-one-buys-the-disks-for-3-cents
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Re: computer games
« Reply #108 on: January 29, 2024, 01:20:13 AM »
It seems that those are Xbox copies and that they will not actually be buyable at that price.
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Re: computer games
« Reply #109 on: January 29, 2024, 01:23:42 AM »
The current free EGS game is Infinifactory, described as "a sandbox puzzle game" (with a sci-fi theme). Next week's
(from 11 AM this Thursday) is Doors - Paradox, described as "a relaxing puzzle escape game" (and rated T for Mild Violence).
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Re: computer games
« Reply #110 on: March 17, 2024, 07:04:17 PM »
Currently free on the EGS is The Bridge, "a logic puzzle game that forces the player to
reevaluate their preconceptions of physics and perspective. It is Isaac Newton meets M.C. Escher."
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