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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2011, 01:59:03 PM »
no im saying that if the3 federal govt charges you 6% then you can prob beat that in the market with a smart investing plan

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2011, 02:02:50 PM »
no im saying that if the3 federal govt charges you 6% then you can prob beat that in the market with a smart investing plan

You clearly have no idea what you're saying.

With all due respect, of course.
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2011, 02:17:42 PM »
what dont you understand
almost any financial consultant will tell you to take out the loans and not use your savings to pay for a masters

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2011, 02:18:36 PM »
what dont you understand
almost any financial consultant will tell you to take out the loans and not use your savings to pay for a masters
Of course.  How else will they earn a living :P
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2011, 02:18:51 PM »
what dont you understand
almost any financial consultant will tell you to take out the loans and not use your savings to pay for a masters

I give up :P
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2011, 02:22:55 PM »
so you think he should use his savings instead of using the loans?

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2011, 02:24:56 PM »
The only merit that I see in taking the loan and paying it off over 10 years is if you use your savings, it is very likely that you won't be disciplined enough to replenish it (in place of monthly loan payments) once you get a job. Although you may have 'gained' in saving interest, you may be left with no savings.

If say your monthly loan payment would be $250 a month for 10 years, and you decide to use your savings to avoid borrowing, you must then take $250 of your salary each month and put it into savings. Takes alot of discipline, but if you can do it you should use your savings.

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2011, 03:56:59 PM »
what dont you understand
almost any financial consultant will tell you to take out the loans and not use your savings to pay for a masters

Yeah, but for completely different reasons than you are suggesting...

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2011, 03:59:58 PM »
so what are thier reasons

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2011, 04:02:14 PM »
so what are thier reasons
#1)
How else will they earn a living :P
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If you use your savings, it is very likely that you won't be disciplined enough to replenish it (in place of monthly loan payments) once you get a job. Although you may have 'gained' in saving interest, you may be left with no savings.

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #30 on: November 15, 2011, 11:51:09 PM »
The only merit that I see in taking the loan and paying it off over 10 years is if you use your savings, it is very likely that you won't be disciplined enough to replenish it (in place of monthly loan payments) once you get a job. Although you may have 'gained' in saving interest, you may be left with no savings.

If say your monthly loan payment would be $250 a month for 10 years, and you decide to use your savings to avoid borrowing, you must then take $250 of your salary each month and put it into savings. Takes alot of discipline, but if you can do it you should use your savings.
Very good point to consider.
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2011, 10:53:25 AM »
You should also take into consideration that you could get a tax deduction for interest on student loans Student Loan Interest Deduction

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2011, 11:38:43 AM »
You should also take into consideration that you could get a tax deduction for interest on student loans Student Loan Interest Deduction


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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2011, 11:57:44 AM »
You should also take into consideration that you could get a tax deduction for interest on student loans Student Loan Interest Deduction
To break down the numbers, say you borrow $30,000 and pay it off over 10 years.
You will pay monthly payments of $345 which includes $250 repayment and $95 interest.
After 10 years you will have paid $41,400, which is $30,000 of the loan plus $11,400 of interest.

You annual interest expense will be $1,140.

If you are in the 15% bracket (making below $70K a year), that means a tax savings of $171 a year ($1,710 over 10 years).
That means you are paying a net interest (incorporating the tax savings) of 5.85%.

Still not worth keeping a savings earning 1%.

If you are in the 25% bracket (making above 70K a year), that means a tax savings of $285 a year ($2,850 over 10 years).
That means that you are paying a net interest (incorporating the tax savings) of 5.21%

Still not worth keeping a savings earning 1%.
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2011, 12:08:42 PM »
Ah, but if you could earn 6 or 10 % on investments...
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2011, 12:10:46 PM »
Ah, but if you could earn 6 or 10 % on investments...
If you find me a safe investment that will reliably pay me 6-10% I'll give you 2% of anything I make.

The reality is, most people are making 1% but are too afraid to touch it.

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2011, 12:13:02 PM »
I obviously needed to end that comment with:

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2011, 12:13:50 PM »
If you find me a safe investment that will reliably pay me 6-10% I'll give you 2% of anything I make.

Safe is an ambiguous term... What do you consider safe? Are AAA rated bonds safe? What about A rated bonds? What about occupied (not a reference to OWS;)) real-estate with paying tenants? etc. etc.
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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2011, 12:21:30 PM »
Safe is an ambiguous term... What do you consider safe? Are AAA rated bonds safe? What about A rated bonds? What about occupied (not a reference to OWS;)) real-estate with paying tenants? etc. etc.
As I mentioned, I have a perfectly 100% safe guaranteed way to earn a net 4.85%.

It's called use your savings account to pay your college, and don't pay 6.8% on your loans!!!!!

Net 5.85 that I mentioned above - 1% being lost = a whopping safe 4.85 investment!!!

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Re: Taking out student loans for Masters or not?
« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2011, 12:36:26 PM »
 
Ah, but if you could earn 6 or 10 % on investments...

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