May Rush Limbaugh have a speedy recovery

[Yehuda57]

This has to be a troll.

Though I thought the same up the Trump campaign.

[chief_mag]

I wonder what he thinks about Trump

[bigez747]

That is a case of Rodef.
Most abortions are not Rodef cases.

Yes, but according to Christians it's murder. If the laws that are advocated by the right wing get passed, that case would be illegal.  My point is-it's wrong to say torah is anti-abortion the way the lehavdil  Christians do

[Yehuda57]

I am referring to political views that are in sync with Torah values. For example, being anti-abortion* and pro capital punishment.

{citation needed}

[jj1000]

Politics is simply a yeshiva guys frummy version of sports.

[Yehuda57]

Politics is simply a yeshiva guys frummy version of sports.

And guys who love Rush, Ben, and all the others just haven't figured out they're fans of WWE.

[jj1000]

And guys who love Rush, Ben, and all the others just haven't figured out they're fans of WWE.

Absolutely.

It’s amazing how talented they are that they can inflame the masses, and the gullible folk buys it hook line and sinker

Yup, hey it's enjoyable. Everyone needs an outlet for fun. Some just like to think they are fixing the world while doing it.

Along the lines of my wife makes the small decisions like where the kids go to school, what car we buy, where we live, and I make the important decisions like who should be president, whether we go to war etc.

[zh cohen]

If the laws that are advocated by the right wing get passed, that case would be illegal.

False

My point is-it's wrong to say torah is anti-abortion

False (although the Torah allows some exceptions)

[ExGingi]

Rush and all the other passionate talk show hosts are a bunch of showbiz actors and nothing else!! If it bleeds it leads. Follow the money of Hannity, Levin and the other screaming fakers...

IDK. I find Levin entertaining. Hannity is torture (outdone only by the Jewish nutcase from the left coast whose name escapes me at the moment). Limbaugh can sometimes be entertaining, haven't heard him in a long time.

[bigez747]

False

False (although the Torah allows some exceptions)

Read the actual bills and you'll see is true
And if the torah allows abortion under certain circumstances by definition it's not anti-abortion

[CountValentine]

(outdone only by the Jewish nutcase from the left coast whose name escapes me at the moment)

Maddow?

[Yehuda57]

Maddow?

Savage

[CountValentine]

Savage

The Savage Nation?

[zh cohen]

Read the actual bills and you'll see is true

Please show me a bill that would not allow abortion when the life of the mother is at risk.

And if the torah allows abortion under certain circumstances by definition it's not anti-abortion

If the fact that exceptions are allowed means that the Torah is not "anti-abortion", then the Torah is also not anti eating pork or even killing.

[aygart]

It's definitely against what Hashem told Noach. I suppose it fits into dinim, but i'm not positive.

And here I threw you such a softball yet you showed that it has nothing to do with the torah view since you totally ignored torah shebaal peh. Yes it does get included in dinim and anyone who does not give capital punishment when that is the halacha is chayav misah. On the other hand, there are very clear rules as to when capital punishment is given. Someone who does not follow those is a murderer himself.

So here you are all proud of both his advocacy against murder of fetuses and also proud of his advocacy for the murder of convicts.

[CountValentine]

If the fact that exceptions are allowed means that the Torah is not "anti-abortion", then the Torah is also not anti eating pork or even killing.

It is hard to make a case you are anti-abortion when you allowed it in certain situations.

[ExGingi]

Savage

Yeah. That one. Pure torture.

[aygart]

It is hard to make a case you are anti-abortion when you allowed it in certain situations.

Why? The primary argument against abortion is to consider the fetus to have rights as a life of its own. Sometimes there are cases where there is a contradiction between two independent lives and there can be rules to govern which should have precedence.

[bigez747]

Please show me a bill that would not allow abortion when the life of the mother is at risk.

Heres one example

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/14/ohio-lawmakers-are-proposing-total-ban-abortion-judges-say-those-laws-are-illegal/%3foutputType=amp

[CountValentine]

Sometimes there are cases where there is a contradiction between two independent lives and there can be rules to govern which should have precedence.

Not unless you are G-d.