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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1420 on: July 23, 2020, 10:36:25 PM »
Finally bipartisan support to do the right thing against this racist president wishes.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-senate-passes-dollar7405-bn-defense-bill-that-would-rename-bases/ar-BB176YoX
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1421 on: July 26, 2020, 12:06:30 AM »
https://apnews.com/8c4b824d0294ae37baf61ca31ae3ef67

everyone knew it the whole time trump wud want to do it.

should illegal aliens be included in population for house seats?
nothings impossible- the word itself says Im possible

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1422 on: July 26, 2020, 08:13:32 AM »
Federal law decides who is counted, not some draft dodging coward president.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1423 on: July 26, 2020, 09:10:31 AM »
Federal law decides who is counted, not some draft dodging coward president.
Right. And federal law prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections. So why should they be counted into getting their state seats?
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1424 on: July 26, 2020, 09:43:52 AM »
Right. And federal law prohibits noncitizens from voting in federal elections. So why should they be counted into getting their state seats?
Voting has nothing to do with it.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-census-actually-count-everyone-and-should-it
"At the core of the controversy is the question that the early history has now made a constitutional question for the Court to answer: Does the census actually count everyone, and should it?"
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1425 on: July 26, 2020, 09:50:27 AM »
Voting has nothing to do with it.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-census-actually-count-everyone-and-should-it
"At the core of the controversy is the question that the early history has now made a constitutional question for the Court to answer: Does the census actually count everyone, and should it?"
The limits to the census system should have nothing to do with counting non-citizens.

It's simply Representation without Taxation.

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1426 on: July 26, 2020, 09:51:36 AM »
The limits to the census system should have nothing to do with counting non-citizens.

It's simply Representation without Taxation.
You can feel that way but is that what the federal laws say?

'What is the Enumeration Clause and what does it mean? Paraphrased, it says that the number of seats in the House of Representatives must be divided up among the states according to the total population of each state, and those figures are to be determined by an “actual enumeration,” with that count to be done first in 1790 and occurring again every 10 years. No state, however small, would be denied a seat; a minimum of one each was guaranteed."
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1427 on: July 26, 2020, 10:37:06 AM »
It's simply Representation without Taxation.
Many (Most?) illegal immigrants pay taxes
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1428 on: July 26, 2020, 10:39:01 AM »
Many (Most?) illegal immigrants pay taxes
There you go with bring in facts again.  ;)
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1429 on: July 26, 2020, 10:55:38 AM »
Many (Most?) illegal immigrants pay taxes
Can you explain me how you, or anyone, can possibly know that? Or are you just pulling a fact out of your hat in order to refute me?

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1430 on: July 26, 2020, 10:58:24 AM »
Can you explain me how you, or anyone, can possibly know that? Or are you just pulling a fact out of your hat in order to refute me?
Don't know if it is accurate but the title is just for you!  :P
https://americasvoice.org/blog/immigration-101-immigrant-taxes/
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1431 on: July 26, 2020, 11:06:34 AM »
The limits to the census system should have nothing to do with counting non-citizens.

It's simply Representation without Taxation.

Nothing to do with taxes. Non citizens aren't represented in government! They don't get a vote!

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1432 on: July 26, 2020, 11:10:01 AM »
Nothing to do with taxes. Non citizens aren't represented in government! They don't get a vote!
This isn't about voting.  ::)
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1433 on: July 26, 2020, 11:20:17 AM »
Can you explain me how you, or anyone, can possibly know that? Or are you just pulling a fact out of your hat in order to refute me?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/15/us/taxes-undocumented-immigrants/index.html

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/NOTES/pdf_notes/note151.pdf

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1435 on: July 26, 2020, 11:39:08 AM »
This isn't about voting.  ::)
Explain to the uneducated, what it is about.

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1436 on: July 26, 2020, 12:06:39 PM »
Explain to the uneducated, what it is about.
The way the federal law was written is everyone is counted. Now you can argue they didn't mean non-citizens but then you would be a liberal judge.  :)
For the record IMHO they should not be counted but that is not the law.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1439 on: July 27, 2020, 09:33:56 AM »