US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread

[aygart]

Then you need to reread the open letter and response. 

They both agree about99% of the substance of both letters. What do you think it is that they are disagreeing about?

[aygart]

Question of the day.
On a purely moral and ethical standard who is worse, Trump or HRC, Trump or Biden?

That you are asking the question in this context implies that you most likely do not fully understand either letter.

[CountValentine]

That you are asking the question in this context implies that you most likely do not fully understand either letter.

I am not talking about the letter. It is a simple question to understand if someone can separate politics from a real answer. Many here have shown they can't.

[CountValentine]

It is a tool to avoid giving a real response.

Like 99% of those here do. You are at the top of the list.

[yungermanchik]

Question of the day.
On a purely moral and ethical standard who is worse, Trump or HRC, Trump or Biden?

They are all moral SCUMBAGS, the exact levels are irrelevant to me because

As Frum Jews we don't replace religion with government and we don't view our politicians (or athletes, for that matter) as arbiters of moral values, they are nothing more than the sum of their policies.

In other words, we only look at them for their value as PUBLIC SERVANTS, not as ROLE MODELS.

[Lurker]

Like 99% of those here do. You are at the top of the list.

How about setting an example by giving a real response?

I think it's time for you to define in precise detail what it is you mean when you say "drinking the Kool-Aid."

[CountValentine]

How about setting an example by giving a real response?

Sure but I have done it several times before with no results.
Kool-Aid is a generic term like head buried in the sand as one example.

[yungermanchik]

Sure but I have done it several times before with no results.
Kool-Aid is a generic term like head buried in the sand as one example.

Yes, we get that it's generic, but even generic terms have definitions:
to use your example; head buried in the sand means refusing to acknowledge or react to Danger in the hope that it will go away by itself.
It has been extended to also refer to refusing to acknowledge or react to proof contrary to one's preconceived notions.

[Lurker]

Sure but I have done it several times before with no results.
Kool-Aid is a generic term like head buried in the sand as one example.

That's not very precise. It's actually pretty ambiguous. It's also doesn't fit anything in that article.

[CountValentine]

It has been extended to also refer to refusing to acknowledge or react to proof contrary to one's preconceived notions.

I guess we could make a list if anyone feels that is necessary.
This one would be on it.

[Jellybelly]

It is much simpler than that. It is a tool to avoid giving a real response.

Liberalism in general is based on emotion and not facts, that’s why deflections are commonly needed

[CountValentine]

Liberalism in general is based on emotion and not facts, that’s why deflections are commonly needed

Then most of you must be liberals because you would deflect on a question like does 1+1+2. 

[Kobe Bryant]

Then most of you must be liberals because you would deflect on a question like does 1+1+2. 

Now I finally understand. A very succinct and comprehensive response.

[aygart]

Like 99% of those here do. You are at the top of the list.

I am not surprised that you feel that way but also have a feeling that the vast majority of people I interact with both here and elsewhere have an opposite opinion than you.

[CountValentine]

I am not surprised that you feel that way but also have a feeling that the vast majority of people I interact with both here and elsewhere have an opposite opinion than you.

They can feel anyway they want. It doesn't change what you do all the time.
Here was a simple question that your response had nothing to do with the question.

Question of the day.
On a purely moral and ethical standard who is worse, Trump or HRC, Trump or Biden?

That you are asking the question in this context implies that you most likely do not fully understand either letter.

[yungermanchik]

It has everything to do with the question because it makes the entire basis for the question irrelevant

They are all moral SCUMBAGS, the exact levels are irrelevant to me because

As Frum Jews we don't replace religion with government and we don't view our politicians (or athletes, for that matter) as arbiters of moral values, they are nothing more than the sum of their policies.

In other words, we only look at them for their value as PUBLIC SERVANTS, not as ROLE MODELS.

[CountValentine]

It has everything to do with the question because it makes the entire basis for the question irrelevant In other words, we only look at them for their value as PUBLIC SERVANTS, not as ROLE MODELS.

If you feel the question is irrelevant then ignore it. Don't try and twist a question into your context as he did.
It seemed relevant enough for you to call them all scumbags. You most have some opinion on their morals and ethics.

[yungermanchik]

If you feel the question is irrelevant then ignore it. Don't try and twist a question into your context as he did.
It seemed relevant enough for you to call them all scumbags. You most have some opinion on their morals and ethics.

It was brought in the middle of conversation, and it was irrelevant to that discussion...but I guess to you, if it's relevant to something in the world, that's called relevant. Context, Man, Context!

[CountValentine]

It was brought in the middle of conversation, and it was irrelevant to that discussion...but I guess to you, if it's relevant to something in the world, that's called relevant. Context, Man, Context!

It was a simple question unrelated to the open letter. I understand you assuming it was related to the open letter but it wasn't.

[aygart]

It was a simple question unrelated to the open letter. I understand you assuming it was related to the open letter but it wasn't.

I will take at your word that the question came from left field and not the context in which it landed. In that case, I decline to answer since I don't really ever try to figure that stuff out.