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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1740 on: August 06, 2020, 09:20:09 AM »
I heard he went crazy. Gave himself some royal title and decided he was a mouse or something. But he was right about gold.
Hopefully he uses his profits to get some help. 😁
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1741 on: August 06, 2020, 09:47:28 AM »
I heard he went crazy. Gave himself some royal title and decided he was a mouse or something. But he was right about gold.

I guess a mouse needs to watch out for the cat.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1742 on: August 06, 2020, 10:10:14 AM »
Maybe Biden should debate.  :)
Deff should Just to amuse us all ;D
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« Reply #1743 on: August 06, 2020, 10:20:00 AM »
Hopefully he uses his profits to get some help. 😁

Who needs help if he makes enough? No one cares if you're crazy when you're rich. Heck, they'll even make you president if you're crazy enough and rich enough.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1744 on: August 06, 2020, 10:26:23 AM »
How are liberal states responsible for national response? The early deaths, for the most part, had nothing to do with the local government response. It had to do with things like timing, medical knowledge, weather, and population density. None of that absolves the administration's complete bungling of their response on national level.
What should the National response have been?

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1745 on: August 06, 2020, 10:26:29 AM »
Who needs help if he makes enough? No one cares if you're crazy when you're rich. Heck, they'll even make you president if you're crazy enough and rich enough.

Would you make him President even he decided to assume a royal title beforehand?
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« Reply #1746 on: August 06, 2020, 10:29:39 AM »
Would you make him President even he decided to assume a royal title beforehand?

What if he gave his kid a royal title beforehand? Red flags, anyone?
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« Reply #1747 on: August 06, 2020, 10:38:20 AM »
What should the National response have been?

Independent verification of the facts, without relying on China or the WHO, leading to a much earlier response. Closing of borders to international travel. National mask mandate. Mass production of PPE. Banning the sale of PPE to foreign entities. Tax credits for all businesses who enable remote work and/or safety measures (capacity limits, curbside pickup, delivery, distancing rules). Nationalized testing sites, in addition to any state or private measures. Funding for labs to exclusively process Covid tests. Localized mass production of tests.

I'm sure I can think of more, but that's a start.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1748 on: August 06, 2020, 11:00:10 AM »
Independent verification of the facts, without relying on China or the WHO, leading to a much earlier response. Closing of borders to international travel. National mask mandate. Mass production of PPE. Banning the sale of PPE to foreign entities. Tax credits for all businesses who enable remote work and/or safety measures (capacity limits, curbside pickup, delivery, distancing rules). Nationalized testing sites, in addition to any state or private measures. Funding for labs to exclusively process Covid tests. Localized mass production of tests.

I'm sure I can think of more, but that's a start.
Would love to know when (in terms of timeline) you would have implemented all of this?

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1749 on: August 06, 2020, 11:01:43 AM »
Independent verification of the facts, without relying on China or the WHO, leading to a much earlier response.

How?
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1750 on: August 06, 2020, 11:20:27 AM »
How?
A start would to put a gag order on the president.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1751 on: August 06, 2020, 11:32:51 AM »
How?

The same way we gather intelligence on any issue related to national security. We have the greatest intelligence network in the world. If we heard whispers of a terrorist attack, we'd be all over it. Whispers of a pandemic should be treated the same.
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« Reply #1752 on: August 06, 2020, 11:36:42 AM »
Would love to know when (in terms of timeline) you would have implemented all of this?

Independent verification should have started at the latest in November 2019. Banning sale of PPE in order to restock our supplies should have happened in Jan, at the latest. When everyone else is buying you out, that should be a flag. Borders should have been shut in Feb, at the latest, when we saw what was happening in China, Iran, and Italy, as well as other places in Europe. Test and PPE production also in Feb/Mar. National mask mandate in March, depending on supplies. Tax incentives in Mar/Apr, continuing throughout the year.

Obviously, that first domino changes everything.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1753 on: August 06, 2020, 11:38:22 AM »
He uses these issues to divide the nation. The only problem this time is it is a losing issue for him!!!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/lebron-james-on-the-nba-losing-trump-as-a-viewer-we-could-care-less/ar-BB17E10Z?li=BBnbfcL
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1754 on: August 06, 2020, 11:59:56 AM »
Looks like the NY AG is making a last min effort to be the Biden’s pick for VP.
What could be better than going after the NRA
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-ag-dissolve-nra-lawsuit
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1755 on: August 06, 2020, 12:01:44 PM »
The same way we gather intelligence on any issue related to national security. We have the greatest intelligence network in the world. If we heard whispers of a terrorist attack, we'd be all over it. Whispers of a pandemic should be treated the same.
Something on this scale wasn't even on the radar to think that it should be done.
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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1756 on: August 06, 2020, 12:08:47 PM »
Independent verification should have started at the latest in November 2019. Banning sale of PPE in order to restock our supplies should have happened in Jan, at the latest. When everyone else is buying you out, that should be a flag. Borders should have been shut in Feb, at the latest, when we saw what was happening in China, Iran, and Italy, as well as other places in Europe. Test and PPE production also in Feb/Mar. National mask mandate in March, depending on supplies. Tax incentives in Mar/Apr, continuing throughout the year.

Obviously, that first domino changes everything.
"Hindsight is 2020" or in your case "2020 is Hindsight"

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Re: US Politics/2020 Election Pick Your Poison Master Thread
« Reply #1757 on: August 06, 2020, 12:09:06 PM »
Would love to know when (in terms of timeline) you would have implemented all of this?
As Lurker says, one waits for the first domino to fall, and further response to the pandemic depends on evaluating what happens next.  So there's not an advance timeline, but rather IF this happens, THEN do that. You can get some insight into how this might have unfolded by reading the "Pandemic Playbook" that had been prepared during 2009-2016.  The document can be downloaded from here:  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/obama-team-left-pandemic-playbook-for-trump-administration-officials-confirm

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« Reply #1758 on: August 06, 2020, 12:09:14 PM »
Something on this scale wasn't even on the radar to think that it should be done.

If @yuneeq could pick it up in Dec/Jan, I'd think it crossed somebody's desk a bit before that.
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« Reply #1759 on: August 06, 2020, 12:11:14 PM »
"Hindsight is 2020" or in your case "2020 is Hindsight"

Obviously, but that doesn't mean the ball wasn't dropped in a major way on a national level.
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