Author Topic: Elections 2012 (Read 149850 times)

Dan · « **Reply #120 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:28:15 PM »

Quote from: WhyAich on July 13, 2012, 11:44:49 AM

she would get us all the ...african american voters

In your dreams.

WhyAich · « **Reply #121 on:** July 13, 2012, 01:40:32 PM »

Quote from: Dan on July 13, 2012, 01:28:15 PM

In your dreams.

In my opinion

meshugener · « **Reply #122 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:10:23 PM »

That's what Dan said, your opinion is a dream....
They'll not vote republican even in contest of a colored repub vs white dem.

RJ898 · « **Reply #123 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:32:40 PM »

Quote from: good sam on July 13, 2012, 10:25:10 AM

Have we learned nothing from the Palin debacle?

Palin was the only reason McCain stood a chance.
The media have a very hard time destroying someone they didn't build, she was an example of that. They just couldn't (and still can't) bring her down.

meshugener · « **Reply #124 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:34:59 PM »

YOU ARE FUNNY

good sam · « **Reply #125 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:36:03 PM »

Quote from: RJ898 on July 13, 2012, 02:32:40 PM

Palin was the only reason McCain stood a chance.
The media have a very hard time destroying someone they didn't build, she was an example of that. They just couldn't (and still can't) bring her down.

Palin was a disaster. She caused plenty of excitement initially until everybody realized she was nuts.

Dan · « **Reply #126 on:** July 13, 2012, 02:48:44 PM »

McCain had no chance in '08 with or without Palin.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

shmiel · « **Reply #127 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:03:39 PM »

This was in all likelihood a "feeler" sent out by the Romney people. I doubt that there is real serious consideration for putting a Bush insider who is a foreign policy wonk and who is not very conservative (and btw pro-choice) on the ticket with Romney. I would bet it will be someone like Bobby Jindal or Tim Pawlenty or Mitch Daniels or Marco Rubio or Paul Ryan or Rob Portman. All those have solid conservatives bona-fides and are experienced, trusted hands in the Republican party. It will be pretty hard for the Dems to portray any of those as wing nuts (with the possible exception of Paul Ryan).

AJK · « **Reply #128 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:07:48 PM »

Quote from: meshugener on July 13, 2012, 02:10:23 PM

That's what Dan said, your opinion is a dream....
They'll not vote republican even in contest of a colored repub vs white dem.

I dunno... with the African American unemployment rate at > 14%, I'd say at least a few will swing red.

meshugener · « **Reply #129 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:16:10 PM »

Seems like you've never known a colored...

shmiel · « **Reply #130 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:16:14 PM »

Quote from: AJK on July 13, 2012, 03:07:48 PM

I dunno... with the African American unemployment rate at > 14%, I'd say at least a few will swing red.

Maybe a few percentage points but nothing significant. Obama gets 90%+ of the black vote in 2012. But the pool of black voters may shrink because of the discontent with Obama (which is good for the GOP). But they won't be voting for Romney.

good sam · « **Reply #131 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:18:52 PM »

My, how things have changed.

jj1000 · « **Reply #132 on:** July 13, 2012, 03:46:51 PM »

Quote from: good sam on July 13, 2012, 03:18:52 PM

My, how things have changed.

You mean when elections were won based on good looks and last names? Nah that still happens today.

good sam · « **Reply #133 on:** July 13, 2012, 04:16:41 PM »

Quote from: jj1000 on July 13, 2012, 03:46:51 PM

You mean when elections were won based on good looks and last names? Nah that still happens today.

I mean the tone of the debate. I haven't seen anything like it. Both men presenting their views without personal personal attacks. You will never hear a candidate say what JFK says in the first part of this clip. "I think Mr. Nixon is an effective leader of his party. I hope he would grant me the same. The question before us is: Which point of view, and which party, do we want to lead the United States"

I was also amazed at how articulate these 2 are. You don't hear an uh or um in the entire clip.

RJ898 · « **Reply #134 on:** July 13, 2012, 07:02:22 PM »

Quote from: good sam on July 13, 2012, 03:18:52 PM

My, how things have changed.

If you close your eyes and listen to what the candidates are saying, Nixon won that debate. JFK on the other hand looks much better on TV. Remember that if you ever start to wonder why a lib never had a successful talk radio program.