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Meir Kay (Kalmanson) a religious internet personality featured in many music videos including “mach a Baracha” and "Ivri Anochi" released a video in which he gifts a gay "couple" a fun night out in a limo, restaurant, and hotel room – for Valentine’s Day.

We tend to allow our children to watch Jewish videos freely. Unfortunately today more than ever we must ascertain if what they are watching is truly  "Jewish".

Meir should take down the video and issue an apology.



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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2020, 12:16:10 PM »
Not commenting on the content, but what he posts is up to him. If you don't like it, don't watch it and don't let your kids watch it. we live in a time where our freedoms are protected whether right or wrong, whether moral or immoral, and he has every right to do as he pleases. As has been said about the airline industry here many times, "Vote with your wallet". If enough people stop watching his videos he may want to do something to appease those people. Until then, just ignore it.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2020, 12:18:24 PM »
Meir should take down the video and issue an apology.

Yeah, that's never going to happen.

Also, look into the "Streisand effect."
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2020, 12:28:43 PM »
Also, look into the "Streisand effect."

Precisely.

I never heard of Meir Kay. Now I did.

I never saw the video. Now I did. And I must say, after the first 45 seconds I barfed in my mouth and quickly closed it.


We tend to allow our children to watch Jewish videos freely. Unfortunately today more than ever we must ascertain if what they are watching is truly  "Jewish".

By "we" I assume you mean Mr. and Mrs. Shkop? Personally, I would never allow my kids to watch "Jewish" videos freely.
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I'm currently crying now for this Meir Kay, I hope can see past the $ and be the person he's supposed to be.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2020, 12:29:07 PM »
Yeah, that's never going to happen.

Also, look into the "Streisand effect."
Views have doubled in the last 20 minutes lol ;D

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2020, 12:30:54 PM »
Precisely.

I never heard of Meir Kay. Now I did.

I never saw the video. Now I did. And I must say, after the first 45 seconds I barfed in my mouth and quickly closed it.


By "we" I assume you mean Mr. and Mrs. Shkop? Personally, I would never allow my kids to watch "Jewish" videos freely.
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I'm currently crying now for this Meir Kay, I hope can see past the $ and be the person he's supposed to be.

Its a lot more then Mr and Mrs Shkop. Meir has made numerous music videos - like mentioned above "Mach a brachcha" for Shmuly Unger

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2020, 12:34:20 PM »
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We tend to allow our children to watch Jewish videos freely. Unfortunately today more than ever we must ascertain if what they are watching is truly  "Jewish".
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How are you letting your children watch "Jewish" videos? Are you letting them go on you tube? Do you really think that they're never going to watch another video on youtube? Or that the next video autoplayed by Youtube's algorithm won't be Jewish?

Meir should take down the video and issue an apology.

I don't know Meir from beyond his videos, but something tells me - aside from his appearances in Benny's video, his content isn't necessarily aimed at the frum world, and for the most part, because he does it with a Yarmulka and a smile - he's creating a kiddush hashem.


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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2020, 12:35:24 PM »
Not commenting on the content, but what he posts is up to him. If you don't like it, don't watch it and don't let your kids watch it. we live in a time where our freedoms are protected whether right or wrong, whether moral or immoral, and he has every right to do as he pleases. As has been said about the airline industry here many times, "Vote with your wallet". If enough people stop watching his videos he may want to do something to appease those people. Until then, just ignore it.
A) from a Torah perspective you are completely wrong. Just because one can legally do as one pleases (e.g. eat non-kosher food) does not mean it is permissible. Same here.
B) As far as legality goes, let's extend your argument. Just like he has a right to publish whatever he wants, so too does anyone else have a right to express their opinion. My opinion is that if Meir cares about being part of the Jewish community, he should take down that garbage and issue an apology.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2020, 12:38:59 PM »
Precisely.
I never heard of Meir Kay. Now I did.
I never saw the video. Now I did. And I must say, after the first 45 seconds I barfed in my mouth and quickly closed it.
By "we" I assume you mean Mr. and Mrs. Shkop? Personally, I would never allow my kids to watch "Jewish" videos freely.
I'm currently crying now for this Meir Kay, I hope can see past the $ and be the person he's supposed to be.
It's nice to know that you are more vigilant about what you allow your kids to watch. But I think it is true that often times frum people are quicker to allow their kids to watch something that is purportedly Jewish without checking it out first than allowing them to watch something that is not.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2020, 12:40:13 PM »
Great job giving it exposure. Never would have seen it otherwise.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2020, 12:40:27 PM »

I don't know Meir from beyond his videos, but something tells me - aside from his appearances in Benny's video, his content isn't necessarily aimed at the frum world, and for the most part, because he does it with a Yarmulka and a smile - he's creating a kiddush hashem.
Well this is a fine example of a chillul Hashem
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2020, 12:42:07 PM »
Great job giving it exposure. Never would have seen it otherwise.

I know  :-\ I hope it doesn't make its way onto all the chats, no reason to have everyone go into Shabbos with this drek in their eyes.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2020, 12:42:51 PM »

A) from a Torah perspective you are completely wrong. Just because one can legally do as one pleases (e.g. eat non-kosher food) does not mean it is permissible. Same here.
B) As far as legality goes, let's extend your argument. Just like he has a right to publish whatever he wants, so too does anyone else have a right to express their opinion. My opinion is that if Meir cares about being part of the Jewish community, he should take down that garbage and issue an apology.
Wow, my point flew so far over your head, you probably assumed it was a plane.

Do you go to every shul where people drive there on shabbos, and scream at them? Do you publicly denounce them? Part of reality is that people will make choices that don't jive with our personal/religious beliefs, and you can share your feelings, but you can't make them do anything. If you tell me you eat pork, I will tell you I don't like that you do that, and it makes me sad, but that's not something i have the power to change. You are entitled to your opinion, but you telling someone what to do, based on your opinion, or an opinion you believe in, is a different story. Yes, you are allowed to, but it says something about you.

Side note, maybe this is his first step in coming out?
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2020, 12:42:59 PM »
Meir comment on this video.

The Youtube comments - a place where the beauty of humanity and the opposite can be found in just a few short sentences. To give this video a bit more context and the process on how this day came to be is that I had the idea to give a couple, ( in my mind - a man and woman) a day out, an escape from their homeless situation, a day for them to connect, bond over a fun activity and backdrops that they may not have access to in their lives. 

Finding a couple in the short amount of time that I had was a difficult task actually and when I heard that the couple that was interested to join me for the day were gay, I didn't think twice. I didn't think about the comments here on Youtube, the opinions of the community,  or anyone else because I had the opportunity to brighten someone's day, to fulfill the reason why I was inspired to make this idea into a reality, so what if they are two men who have found comfort, peace and love amongst themselves, it was a no brainer.

This video, like my other videos is meant to inspire and to show perhaps and even give a nudge to the watcher to take an action, to bring light and love to the world, in their own way. To go about doing something so extravagant I understand not all have the means and connections to do so, rather, it's the small things in life that truly have the biggest impact.

How wonderful that this video can hold a mirror to the watcher on how they react to seeing something different from their belief system, to experience disappointment in someone and how they share that with the person etc. How righteous they can feel about themselves in one area in their life and forgo some crucial elements of being truly righteous in other aspects of their being.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2020, 12:43:02 PM »
A) from a Torah perspective you are completely wrong. Just because one can legally do as one pleases (e.g. eat non-kosher food) does not mean it is permissible. Same here.
B) As far as legality goes, let's extend your argument. Just like he has a right to publish whatever he wants, so too does anyone else have a right to express their opinion. My opinion is that if Meir cares about being part of the Jewish community, he should take down that garbage and issue an apology.

I'm assuming you've seen his other videos, including:




So mixed dancing is okay and "Jewish" but a gay couple is not, got it.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2020, 12:44:56 PM »
Great job giving it exposure. Never would have seen it otherwise.
As @AJK said as well. This is the biggest mistake made. So many people who never heard of him now have. We live in a time where negative attention can help a persons popularity many times more than positive attention. #cashmeoutside
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2020, 12:48:27 PM »
Wow, my point flew so far over your head, you probably assumed it was a plane.

Do you go to every shul where people drive there on shabbos, and scream at them? Do you publicly denounce them? Part of reality is that people will make choices that don't jive with our personal/religious beliefs, and you can share your feelings, but you can't make them do anything. If you tell me you eat pork, I will tell you I don't like that you do that, and it makes me sad, but that's not something i have the power to change. You are entitled to your opinion, but you telling someone what to do, based on your opinion, or an opinion you believe in, is a different story. Yes, you are allowed to, but it says something about you.
Whatever. i think you just don't like someone making an issue about a Jewish thing.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2020, 12:49:48 PM »
Well this is a fine example of a chillul Hashem

I think you and I have very different opinions of what constitutes a chillul hashem. Let me ask you this - what really offends you in this video? That he's helping people celebrate valentines day? That he is giving a shred of humanity to some homeless individuals, or the fact that they are gay?

I'm guessing it's the last one. If not, you wouldn't be complaining right here and now, you would've complained about his superbowl parties. 

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2020, 12:50:51 PM »

Finding a couple in the short amount of time that I had was a difficult task actually and when I heard that the couple that was interested to join me for the day were gay, I didn't think twice. I didn't think about the comments here on Youtube, the opinions of the community,  or anyone else because I had the opportunity to brighten someone's day, to fulfill the reason why I was inspired to make this idea into a reality, so what if they are two men who have found comfort, peace and love amongst themselves, it was a no brainer.
Very very sad
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2020, 12:51:37 PM »


So mixed dancing is okay and "Jewish" but a gay couple is not, got it.
I'm assuming you don't know the history of why the mabul came? it was not because of mixed dancing that Hashem to decided to start a new page... so don't compare it.

I think you and I have very different opinions of what constitutes a chillul hashem. Let me ask you this - what really offends you in this video? That he's helping people celebrate valentines day? That he is giving a shred of humanity to some homeless individuals, or the fact that they are gay?

I'm guessing it's the last one. If not, you wouldn't be complaining right here and now, you would've complained about his superbowl parties.

again the issue isnt that they are gay. the issue is about the actions they do.  you really don't understand the jewish stand point on homosexuality
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