Author Topic: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology  (Read 19423 times)

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #80 on: February 22, 2020, 09:27:59 PM »
I watched 30 seconds to see what I missed and closed it.

I don't think that adds to the YouTube view count.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #81 on: February 22, 2020, 09:37:24 PM »
As someone who has watched a lot of Meir Kay's content over the years, and enjoyed it, I am happy that this video was brought to my attention. I did not watch the video, nor do I plan on watching any of his content anymore.

Regarding the Streisand affect argument - I don't think everyone understands how much "Jewish" content is being produced by Meir. He's very talented and his content is all over the place. People need to know about this video so he won't be hired for Jewish content - as long as he can't promise to adhere to basic Jewish standards.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #82 on: February 22, 2020, 10:29:08 PM »
I don't think that adds to the YouTube view count.
I believe it unfortunately does, unless it's a quick in and out, then it wouldn't, like say, a video starting playing itself, or stuff like that, that's what they don't count.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2020, 10:34:06 PM by Yo ssi »

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #83 on: February 22, 2020, 10:29:40 PM »
By the way, as far as the question raised up-thread whether or not the video actually violates halacha, it should be noted that he bought the homeless homosexual "couple" a hotel room for the night "so you guys could spend some time together".

(Besides, what beats me is that even if he doesn't care, doesn't he realize that his Orthodox audience - which I believe is considerable - would? I don't get it. It's against halacha, gross, and illogical.)
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #84 on: February 22, 2020, 10:54:55 PM »
For his own halacha decisions - thats his issue. Not yours.

After you get over that, it's just business decisions after that, and he decided that it was a good one. Again, his decision, not yours.

What's so difficult?

And finally, if i was making a music video, should i not hire him because of this video? Guys, get over it. (And if you don't want to hire him anymore, go ahead.)
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #85 on: February 22, 2020, 10:57:10 PM »
For his own halacha decisions - thats his issue. Not yours.

After you get over that, it's just business decisions after that, and he decided that it was a good one. Again, his decision, not yours.

What's so difficult?

And finally, if i was making a music video, should i not hire him because of this video? Guys, get over it. (And if you don't want to hire him anymore, go ahead.)
Just by the way, are you a religious Orthodox Jew?
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #86 on: February 22, 2020, 10:58:01 PM »
Just by the way, are you a religious Orthodox Jew?

I'd consider myself that.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #87 on: February 22, 2020, 11:16:10 PM »
I'd consider myself that.
Well, part of Orthodox dogma is that all Jews are responsible for one another. If his "halachic decision" has any merit whatsoever I would love to hear it. But considering that it doesn't, his decision was simply to ignore halacha. And, as a Jewish entertainer, he has a responsibility to be sensitive not only to his own faith, but to the adults and children that view his content. 

As to your second point about his business decision being "his decision, not yours" ....well, all I was doing was observing that I can't fathom the logic behind what he did. At no point did I accidentally think that the business decision was mine not his. Scary that I actually am pointing this out. 
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #88 on: February 22, 2020, 11:32:03 PM »
Funny to think I would actually accomplish anything by posting here.
Yup, learned my lesson, let everyone else do the fighting.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #89 on: February 22, 2020, 11:54:36 PM »
A. Reading this thread was sufficient warning for me to not even open the video (so no, he didn't get my click).

B. Having watched many of his past videos I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest. As others mentioned upthread, he has a long track record. It continues to baffle and upset me that he's promoted, invited, and utilized by frum entities.
That's what it boils down to IMHO.

If he wants to do his thing, well it's a free country. But I'd expect people under the frum umbrella to completely tune him out already. I hope this was the last straw.

Hoping he finds his path (& mate) in life ASAP.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2020, 11:58:39 PM »
A. Reading this thread was sufficient warning for me to not even open the video (so no, he didn't get my click).

B. Having watched many of his past videos I'm honestly not surprised in the slightest. As others mentioned upthread, he has a long track record. It continues to baffle and upset me that he's promoted, invited, and utilized by frum entities.
That's what it boils down to IMHO.

If he wants to do his thing, well it's a free country. But I'd expect people under the frum umbrella to completely tune him out already. I hope this was the last straw.

Hoping he finds his path (& mate) in life ASAP.
A. Same here
B. Couldn't have said it better

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2020, 01:15:25 AM »
The @Shkop I had in mind, was having a filter blocking You Tube  :)

(M key's videos made their way out of YT too, hopefully it will no longer)

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2020, 02:54:52 AM »
By the way, as far as the question raised up-thread whether or not the video actually violates halacha, it should be noted that he bought the homeless homosexual "couple" a hotel room for the night "so you guys could spend some time together".
That's the part that I don't get. Getting a dinner nu nu it can still be considered an aveirah lishma. But a hotel room? That's crossing a red line in my opinion.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2020, 03:07:55 AM »
I didnít watch the video. A git vuch.

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2020, 03:11:35 AM »
Not sure why everyone going so crazy about his video?
First time he did something  of this sort?
And if you dont consider his other videos inappropriate than not sure if this one is neither 😜
Keep calm and move on

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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2020, 04:53:16 AM »
Not sure why everyone going so crazy about his video?
First time he did something  of this sort?
And if you dont consider his other videos inappropriate than not sure if this one is neither
I unfollowed him a few months ago. Glad I did. Since then YT has been completely blocked anyways by filter, but I saw where his channel was heading.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2020, 09:00:11 AM »
You don't understand human nature?  I watched 30 seconds to see what I missed and closed it.

I most definitely understand human nature, and sometimes succumb to it too. However, unless someone knows absolutely nothing about Meir K and his videos, which clearly indicate my second unfortunate point, I would think that most wouldn't be tempted to watch even one second of the video. For crying out loud, to @aygart's point, the mere fact that it's somehow connected to "Valentine's day" is enough to say that neither this nor any of his other videos should be given any airtime.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2020, 09:06:16 AM »
I most definitely understand human nature, and sometimes succumb to it too. However, unless someone knows absolutely nothing about Meir K and his videos, which clearly indicate my second unfortunate point, I would think that most wouldn't be tempted to watch even one second of the video. For crying out loud, to @aygart's point, the mere fact that it's somehow connected to "Valentine's day" is enough to say that neither this nor any of his other videos should be given any airtime.
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
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Re: Meir Key should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2020, 11:12:20 AM »
Can you imagine if @CountValentine would still be alive???
This thread would be burning :)