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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #240 on: May 30, 2021, 03:37:42 PM »

With the Tzitzis hanging out trying to put on the mainstream orthodox/yeshivish look. Dispicable. At least do it in jeans and a hoodie or something.
What people do for clout... This video is so cringe and I'm not coming from a halachic standpoint. Meir used to make good videos.

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #241 on: May 30, 2021, 03:43:14 PM »
LOL, kinda outing yourself on the whole "don't want him to look frum" vs "I don't want him to look like me" thing.
Which also implies “It bothers me that he’s doing the wrong thing” vs. “it bothers me that what he’s doing makes me look bad”
This is ludicrous. The actions he did on video would be condemned by nobody *but* those who actually do dress like that. The issue is not that he “looks like you”, but that he is *pretending* to “look like you” while engaging in behavior “you” do not accept as appropriate.  It’s not about condemning the behavior of those who perform aveiros, which would keep us busy all day, but condemning one who is publicly engaging in and sharing behavior considered immoral by those he is *dressing up as*.

He's not trying to be you or look like you.

Of course he is trying to “look like you”. Who are you fooling? He never wears white shirts and black pants in his videos, and clearly  chose to put them on to misappropriate and misrepresent a culture he does not stand for and who’s standards and behaviors he was flagrantly violating.

Is it proper to bring blackface into this discussion?
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #242 on: May 30, 2021, 03:49:16 PM »
Is it proper to bring blackface into this discussion?

Very. Meir Kay is a racist for doing things I don’t condone. Let’s cancel him.

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #243 on: May 30, 2021, 03:49:31 PM »
This is ludicrous.

My comment was in response to a Na nach kippah being ok, but white shirt, not

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #244 on: May 30, 2021, 03:51:38 PM »
One thing he definitely achieved: more people watching it than otherwise would and more people talking about it.

As the old saying goes: פי.. אויף מיר, קא.. אויף מיר, אבי אויף מיר...
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #245 on: May 30, 2021, 03:52:27 PM »
Very. Meir Kay is a racist for doing things I don’t condone. Let’s cancel him.

/s
Come on. He is dressing up specifically to represent a community and publicly flaunting that community’s norms. That’s wrong and should be called out.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #246 on: May 30, 2021, 03:53:36 PM »
Meir Kay doesn't represent any branch of Judaism, nor does he claim to. He dressed the way he did in this clip to make it very obvious that he is a religious Jew (which he is not). The whole point of this production was for people to see and give love to/from someone who is visibly and proudly Jewish. If your issue is that he looks too much like you and you feel misrepresented, G-d bless you. I'd like to see the same indignation about the way Chaim Deutsch dresses, or anyone else being led away by police or standing behind a defense table in court.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #247 on: May 30, 2021, 03:55:33 PM »
Come on. He is dressing up specifically to represent a community and publicly flaunting that community’s norms. That’s wrong and should be called out.

Wrong, black face, and despicable are three different things to me. You can call him what you want, and I’ll agree that it’s potentially wrong on more than one level and people can certainly call him out.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #248 on: May 30, 2021, 03:57:09 PM »
I think the thread title gives the wrong idea about which hugs are the problem

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #249 on: May 30, 2021, 04:20:08 PM »
What people do for clout... This video is so cringe and I'm not coming from a halachic standpoint. Meir used to make good videos.
Cringe & shallow. Hugging a random stranger on the street doesn’t show any kind of love.
The people hugging him either pity him or need to convince themselves that they really don’t have an issue with jews.

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #250 on: May 30, 2021, 04:28:20 PM »
As the old saying goes: פי.. אויף מיר, קא.. אויף מיר, אבי אויף מיר...

In a more modern formulation,
"I / Don't / Care what you think, so long as it's about me."
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #251 on: May 30, 2021, 04:33:48 PM »
I'll post two screenshots from the beginning of the video - you can imagine what happens next...

A) Pointing and staring.
B) He is harshly questioned about his positions on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
C) Mixed dancing.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #252 on: May 30, 2021, 04:34:01 PM »
He never wears white shirts and black pants in his videos, and clearly  chose to put them on to misappropriate and misrepresent a culture he does not stand for and who’s standards and behaviors he was flagrantly violating.

Just scrolling on YouTube shows at least 5 other videos with him in a white shirt and tzitzis out. That's without opening any videos to find more.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #253 on: May 30, 2021, 05:34:31 PM »
After deep reflection and a couple of cold beers I came to the realization that Meir Kay is really each and every one of us. Like the story of the Satmar Rebbe who was asked by a badchan for permission to imitate the Rebbe’s davening on Yamim Noraim to be misameiach the chosson and kallah. Permission was granted, and the badchan proceeded to imitate every nuance, krechtz, and shuckle of the Rebbes Yomim Noraim davening with such precision that everyone was spellbound. Suddenly the badchan noticed that the Rebbe was crying. Running over he begged the Rebbe for mechila. The Rebbe answered “there is nothing to be mochel. It’s just that while watching you I suddenly realized that perhaps when I daven on Yomim Noraim perhaps I too am simply imitating the Satmar Rebbes davening.”

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #254 on: May 30, 2021, 06:03:14 PM »
In a more modern formulation,
"I / Don't / Care what you think, so long as it's about me."

Doesn't even come close to the original expression.
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #255 on: May 30, 2021, 07:04:24 PM »
a couple of cold beers
Definitely this.

Maybe try this?

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #256 on: May 30, 2021, 07:26:59 PM »
WOW the hate is off the charts. The guy is spreading love and peace. Since when is that a bad thing?
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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #257 on: May 30, 2021, 07:35:04 PM »
WOW the hate is off the charts. The guy is spreading love and peace. Since when is that a bad thing?
Ok I'll spell it out for you. Love and peace isn't a bad thing, someone dressed as an observant Jew hugging random female strangers on the street is.

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #258 on: May 30, 2021, 07:35:10 PM »
The guy is spreading love and peace.
I wouldn’t go that far.

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Re: Meir Kay should take down the homosexual video and issue an apology
« Reply #259 on: May 30, 2021, 07:35:56 PM »
WOW the hate is off the charts. The guy is spreading love and peace. Since when is that a bad thing?
We are jews, the way to spread love and peace is according to the torah. When it's done against the Torah, that's a bad thing.