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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2020, 06:09:30 PM »
Why? Is this the first disagreement they have had on this exact concept?

if they are threatening to resign from the Moetzes ...they should also resign from their other positions

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Re: World Zionist Organization
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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2020, 07:37:38 PM »
if they are threatening to resign from the Moetzes ...they should also resign from their other positions
Why?

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2020, 11:12:41 PM »
http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/22220-show-260-wzo-to-join-or-not-to-join/

Thoughts?

I just read the Jerusalem platform, and I find it very difficult to interpret it in the way they are claiming it can be read to mean.

https://www.wzo.org.il/The-Jerusalem-Program

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2020, 11:54:46 PM »
I just read the Jerusalem platform, and I find it very difficult to interpret it in the way they are claiming it can be read to mean.

https://www.wzo.org.il/The-Jerusalem-Program

difficult yes, but still technically possible.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2020, 12:22:50 AM »
did not listen to the recording
did he now he was being recorded
Definitely not. Therefore?
Page not found
Just accessed it

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2020, 07:41:57 AM »
difficult yes, but still technically possible.

How? They clearly define what they mean when they say Zionism.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2020, 09:31:00 AM »
How? They clearly define what they mean when they say Zionism.

just went through it again. Which sentence do you find that has a definitive interpretation? Again, i agree that the way you can read it is not the way they intended.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #25 on: February 27, 2020, 11:04:55 AM »
Why?

why what?
why threaten to resign from the Moetzes
Definitely not. Therefore?Just accessed it

just wondering if that is legal and if the recorder can be sued
is it a one party state

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2020, 11:06:54 AM »
why what?
why threaten to resign from the Moetzesjust wondering if that is legal and if the recorder can be sued
is it a one party state
Why should they resign from other positions too?

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2020, 11:15:08 AM »
why threaten to resign from the Moetzes

Because of the implication that was going by around that the Moetzes endorses voting

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2020, 11:36:01 AM »
Re: the quoted letter from R' Aharon Feldman: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=114419.msg2204607#msg2204607

I don't really understand. Obviously, I'm nowhere near his level, so I'm not questioning him, I'd just appreciate if someone can perhaps explain his reasoning.

From my reading of that letter (which I can't find from any other source), it seems he's not complaining about the content of the Jerusalem program, he's concerned about what it DOESN'T include. But there are lots of times when someone can talk about the fact that certain concepts are central to judaism, and we don't expect them to list the entire 13 ikrim?

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2020, 11:48:07 AM »
Re: the quoted letter from R' Aharon Feldman: https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=114419.msg2204607#msg2204607

I don't really understand. Obviously, I'm nowhere near his level, so I'm not questioning him, I'd just appreciate if someone can perhaps explain his reasoning.

From my reading of that letter (which I can't find from any other source), it seems he's not complaining about the content of the Jerusalem program, he's concerned about what it DOESN'T include. But there are lots of times when someone can talk about the fact that certain concepts are central to judaism, and we don't expect them to list the entire 13 ikrim?

Perhaps how concern is the declaration of Zionism as
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the expression of the common responsibility of the Jewish people for its continuity and future.
as opposed to Torah