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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2020, 12:01:22 PM »
Why should they resign from other positions too?

for the same reason as resigning from moetzes

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2020, 01:34:09 PM »
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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2020, 04:55:23 PM »
It seems that if the Gedolim in EY will release a written haskama of some sort then Rav Aharon Feldman may change his position. He was concerned that certain things were misrepresented.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2020, 02:59:40 AM »
why what?
why threaten to resign from the Moetzesjust wondering if that is legal and if the recorder can be sued
is it a one party state
In no universe will Rav Shmuel Kaminetzky sue an individual in court.
Why should they resign from other positions too?
I see no issue with Rabonim disagreeing on hashkafa issues....

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2020, 08:30:40 AM »
https://hefkervelt.blogspot.com/2020/02/letter-talmidim-of-harav-aharon-kotler.html?m=1
Some of the names signed were barely Bar Mitzvah when Reb Ahron Kotler passed away. Weird that Reb Ahron who traveled to Israel to promote the Israeli elections in order to influene the Knesses Haminim would have an issue to do the same with WZO.

Even Satmar which won't vote in the Israeli elections due to Hisgaros BeUmos, should be behind infiltrating a Zionist organization and capturing it from within.
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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2020, 11:08:31 AM »
Because of the implication that was going by around that the Moetzes endorses voting

the same implication is there by the other organizations that they are members of

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2020, 08:26:15 AM »
Some of the names signed were barely Bar Mitzvah when Reb Ahron Kotler passed away. Weird that Reb Ahron who traveled to Israel to promote the Israeli elections in order to influene the Knesses Haminim would have an issue to do the same with WZO.

Even Satmar which won't vote in the Israeli elections due to Hisgaros BeUmos, should be behind infiltrating a Zionist organization and capturing it from within.
Does the heter to vote in Israeli elections apply equally here? And if you feel it does, is it so clear that you would call it weird if someone felt it did not? I'm also curious why this idea just popped up now, has anything changed as far as how the wzo does things recently?

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2020, 08:33:43 AM »
Matzav is reporting that the video of R Shmuel is about Israeli elections

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2020, 10:03:29 AM »
Matzav is reporting that the video of R Shmuel about Israeli elections is about Israeli elections
While the recording about WZO is still about WZO (as is clear from the recording)

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2020, 10:20:04 AM »
Iím not partial to Peleg et al. but the way this is being pushed through the media outlets, particularly VIN smacks of manipulation, and I donít like being manipulated. Speak to your Daas Torah or at least someone you respect and go with that. But when this becomes just another spin item and/ or a platform for bashing anybody (especially in the comments) stay far away.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2020, 10:32:39 AM »
While the recording about WZO is still about WZO (as is clear from the recording)
To be 100% fair, it seems like Rav Shmuel had a hard time hearing him (he was speaking fast). It may be that he understood that he was asking about the Israeli elections.

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2020, 10:35:17 AM »
To be 100% fair, it seems like Rav Shmuel had a hard time hearing him (he was speaking fast). It may be that he understood that he was asking about the Israeli elections.
any reason why WZO election would be dif then knesset elections?

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Re: World Zionist Organization
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2020, 10:41:16 AM »
any reason why WZO election would be dif then knesset elections?
In the Israeli elections you vote as a citizen of Israel, regardless of the policies and beliefs of the founders/government. With WZO it seems you have to affirm the mission statement of the WZO.