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What did you buy to prepare for the virus?

Masks/Gloves
Sterilizer/Soap/Disinfectants
Extra water/food
Paper Towels/Toilet Paper
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2020, 11:48:32 AM »
How do I fix my poll entry. I put in an entry as I was headed to Costco and Target, but couldn't find what I was going to buy.... Never saw so many low- to no- stock areas in Costco.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2020, 11:50:04 AM »
Figured we were in 24 and they were going to go after the water too.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2020, 11:51:28 AM »
Buy low sell high. Supply and demand. Sell em high @hvaces42 !
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2020, 11:52:52 AM »
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2020, 11:57:19 AM »
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2020, 12:02:05 PM »
Didn't they already say not to get masks? I heard they are practically useless in this case, and you are only taking away from stock the medical facilities need.

They can't be practically useless, and taking away from those that need them (simple contradiction).
In fact, even the simplest masks are not useless, plenty of studies prove that. And if you can get N95 masks they are very good if fitted properly.

The idea that buying from retail stores like home depot for personal use is taking away from the medical facilities is a dumb assumption and also shows how poor the preparations have been on a national level.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2020, 12:04:40 PM »
Didn't they already say not to get masks? I heard they are practically useless in this case, and you are only taking away from stock the medical facilities need.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2020, 12:19:19 PM »
They can't be practically useless, and taking away from those that need them (simple contradiction).
In fact, even the simplest masks are not useless, plenty of studies prove that. And if you can get N95 masks they are very good if fitted properly.

The idea that buying from retail stores like home depot for personal use is taking away from the medical facilities is a dumb assumption and also shows how poor the preparations have been on a national level.
First of all, it's not a contradiction at all. All the medical facilities that needed them before, still need them now, unrelated to this. So it's completely possible for them to be needed for surgeons and doctors performing procedures but be ineffective for this virus. I'll try to find the source for it, but I believe I heard that these do nothing to prevent you from getting it, it only help prevent people who already have it from spreading it. Yes, buying them en mass definitely creates a shortage. I saw somewhere (I'll edit with link if I can find source in a bit) that medical facilities are asking manufacturers to fill their orders first as there is a shortage. Not sure why this concept doesn't make sense. Huge surge in demand typically means a decline in supply especially when manufacturers of said item may be in places that aren't operating due to the very reason these masks are being purchased to begin with.


ETA: Quick google search backs up pretty much all that info with multiple links, many quoting the CDC and WHO.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2020, 12:24:15 PM »


If you daven with a minyan and Do not talk in shul you'll have nothing to worry about!
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2020, 12:25:50 PM »
The reason they are not very effective (even n95) is because all it takes is for the wearer to readjust their mask to catch the virus. Unless you are extremely careful with not touching your face without washing your hands and properly removing your mask you can still get the virus.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2020, 12:30:20 PM »
The reason they are not very effective (even n95) is because all it takes is for the wearer to readjust their mask to catch the virus. Unless you are extremely careful with not touching your face without washing your hands and properly removing your mask you can still get the virus.


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The science, according to the CDC, says that surgical masks won’t stop the wearer from inhaling small airborne particles, which can cause infection. Nor do these masks form a snug seal around the face. The CDC recommends surgical masks only for people who already show symptoms of coronavirus and must go outside, since wearing a mask can help prevent spreading the virus by protecting others nearby when you cough or sneeze.


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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #33 on: March 04, 2020, 12:31:45 PM »


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That wouldn't include n95 with a good fit.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #34 on: March 04, 2020, 12:33:26 PM »
That wouldn't include n95 with a good fit.
True. Problem is, many don't realize what "a good fit" means. Most facial hair will ruin it, any adjusting (as you said), and many other things.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #35 on: March 04, 2020, 12:36:19 PM »
The items on the list sound like people are preparing to be quarantined (or not) while healthy, not isolated at home due to sickness.  That's not what I'd call well-prepared.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #36 on: March 04, 2020, 12:47:49 PM »
And the rest of us??
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #37 on: March 04, 2020, 01:06:47 PM »
First of all, it's not a contradiction at all. All the medical facilities that needed them before, still need them now, unrelated to this. So it's completely possible for them to be needed for surgeons and doctors performing procedures but be ineffective for this virus. I'll try to find the source for it, but I believe I heard that these do nothing to prevent you from getting it, it only help prevent people who already have it from spreading it. Yes, buying them en mass definitely creates a shortage. I saw somewhere (I'll edit with link if I can find source in a bit) that medical facilities are asking manufacturers to fill their orders first as there is a shortage. Not sure why this concept doesn't make sense. Huge surge in demand typically means a decline in supply especially when manufacturers of said item may be in places that aren't operating due to the very reason these masks are being purchased to begin with.


ETA: Quick google search backs up pretty much all that info with multiple links, many quoting the CDC and WHO.

1. With a long incubation period, anyone can be infected and not know any it, wearing any mask helps.
2. The lack of testing in the US makes point 1 much more important.
3. Any mask helps prevent us from touching our face, which we do about 20-25x per hour on average.
4. No retail stores are getting any new stock. No distributors are getting new stock. Everything is on back order. Unless the CDC is shopping Walmart’s looking for the 2 masks remaining there’s absolutely no reason to get a hold of whatever you can find.
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #38 on: March 04, 2020, 01:09:08 PM »
1. With a long incubation period, anyone can be infected and not know any it, wearing any mask helps.
2. The lack of testing in the US makes point 1 much more important.
3. Any mask helps prevent us from touching our face, which we do about 20-25x per hour on average.
4. No retail stores are getting any new stock. No distributors are getting new stock. Everything is on back order. Unless the CDC is shopping Walmart’s looking for the 2 masks remaining there’s absolutely no reason to get a hold of whatever you can find.
I've gotten some really big offers on masks, and still getting
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Re: Prepping for COVID-19
« Reply #39 on: March 04, 2020, 01:09:27 PM »
The items on the list sound like people are preparing to be quarantined (or not) while healthy, not isolated at home due to sickness.  That's not what I'd call well-prepared.

Have you been following other countries? That’s exactly what happened in China, Italy, etc. matter of time it happens here if the officials have any guts.
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