Author Topic: Pesach Programs (Read 16530 times)

israshot · « **Reply #140 on:** March 24, 2020, 06:33:16 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 24, 2020, 06:32:28 PM

News from Eretz Yisroel is that several Sefardic Rabbis gave a one time heter to use Zoom so elderly people can participate in a seder.

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ExGingi · « **Reply #141 on:** March 24, 2020, 06:35:33 PM »

Quote from: israshot on March 24, 2020, 06:33:16 PM

Attached.

There's an updated version out there with additional signatures.

Shmobaum · « **Reply #142 on:** March 25, 2020, 01:08:41 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 24, 2020, 06:32:28 PM

News from Eretz Yisroel is that several Sefardic Rabbis gave a one time heter to use Zoom so elderly people can participate in a seder.

Wow incredible!!! Rav Moshe Heinemann takeh assured it in his shiur last night on TorahAnytime. Very brave psak...
Let’s see how the Zoom stock is gonna do tomorrow...

yfr bachur · « **Reply #143 on:** March 25, 2020, 08:10:49 AM »

There is no way any rav, considered mainstream chariedi, will sign such a hetter.
Have you heard of ANY of these "Rabbis" before?

None of Chacham Ovadia Yosef's children signed, no one from the Moetzes Chachmei Hatorah, not even from the Chavrei Moetzes Harabanut Harashit L'Yisrael!!!!!!!

You need "shoulders" to start with hetterim like this, its not for the Ram in some Yeshiva to sign on, or the Mara Dasra of some small Yishuv, or the Rav of a Beit Knessset.

israshot · « **Reply #144 on:** March 25, 2020, 08:16:25 AM »

Quote from: yfr bachur on March 25, 2020, 08:10:49 AM

There is no way any rav, considered mainstream chariedi, will sign such a hetter.
Have you heard of ANY of these "Rabbis" before?
None of Chacham Ovadia Yosef's children signed, no one from the Moetzes Chachmei Hatorah, not even from the Chavrei Moetzes Harabanut Harashit L'Yisrael!!!!!!!

You need "shoulders" to start with hetterim like this, its not for the Ram in some Yeshiva to sign on, or the Mara Dasra of some small Yishuv, or the Rav of a Beit Knessset.

Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

yuneeq · « **Reply #145 on:** March 25, 2020, 08:48:20 AM »

Quote from: israshot on March 25, 2020, 08:16:25 AM

Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

Not gonna disparage anyone, but I’d like to see someone like Rabbi Shlomo Amar (also Moroccan) on it.

Proisrael · « **Reply #146 on:** March 25, 2020, 08:52:17 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on March 25, 2020, 08:48:20 AM

Not gonna disparage anyone, but I’d like to see someone like Rabbi Shlomo Amar (also Moroccan) on it.

Rav Mordechai Eliyahu came out strongly against it, along with Tzhoar rabonim....

ExGingi · « **Reply #147 on:** March 25, 2020, 09:11:17 AM »

https://www.kipa.co.il/חדשות/957426-הדברים-הוצאו-מהקשרם-רבנים-שחתמו-על-פסק-הזום-חוזרים-בהם/

israshot · « **Reply #148 on:** March 25, 2020, 09:12:51 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 25, 2020, 09:11:17 AM

https://www.kipa.co.il/חדשות/957426-הדברים-הוצאו-מהקשרם-רבנים-שחתמו-על-פסק-הזום-חוזרים-בהם/

You're funny, you wanted the previous version with all the signatures... Comes out I sent first the updated one.

ExGingi · « **Reply #149 on:** March 25, 2020, 09:19:49 AM »

Quote from: israshot on March 25, 2020, 09:12:51 AM

You're funny, you wanted the previous version with all the signatures... Comes out I sent first the updated one.

Little did I know. I saw a different version than the one you posted, and since it had more signatories, I assumed it to be a later version.

I just found this news item about the retractions.

yfr bachur · « **Reply #150 on:** March 25, 2020, 12:57:53 PM »

Quote from: israshot on March 25, 2020, 08:16:25 AM

Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

Sorry, I meant some of the other signatories

damaxer91 · « **Reply #151 on:** March 26, 2020, 04:16:54 PM »

Has anyone had luck canceling Orlando vacation rentals? I was booked through a company called Magical Vacations that is refusing to refund now...

ExGingi · « **Reply #152 on:** March 27, 2020, 12:54:22 PM »

Quote from: israshot on March 25, 2020, 08:16:25 AM

Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

https://www.20il.co.il/חשיפה-היתר-הזום-בליל-הסדר-מזוייף/

Kvending · « **Reply #153 on:** March 28, 2020, 10:59:12 PM »

Quote from: damaxer91 on March 26, 2020, 04:16:54 PM

Has anyone had luck canceling Orlando vacation rentals? I was booked through a company called Magical Vacations that is refusing to refund now...

I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.

ACF · « **Reply #154 on:** March 29, 2020, 01:55:28 AM »

Now that it is clear that all the Israel Pesach programs have been cancelled due to government regulations I would be interested in hearing what refunds others have received from the operators. We received 70% cash refund and 10% voucher. Is there any way to receive the rest of the amount from sources other than the operator (e.g., insurance, government funds)?

AsherO · « **Reply #155 on:** March 29, 2020, 12:58:37 PM »

Quote from: ACF on March 29, 2020, 01:55:28 AM

Now that it is clear that all the Israel Pesach programs have been cancelled due to government regulations I would be interested in hearing what refunds others have received from the operators. We received 70% cash refund and 10% voucher. Is there any way to receive the rest of the amount from sources other than the operator (e.g., insurance, government funds)?

CC chargeback? Ask for 30% and say you don’t care for the voucher.

A3 · « **Reply #156 on:** March 29, 2020, 03:14:29 PM »

Quote from: Kvending on March 28, 2020, 10:59:12 PM

I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.

The governor put a statewide ban on short term rentals.

Either way they should be forced to cancel.
If they don’t have to cash to give you that should their problem as it’s supposed to be on their books as a liability until stay.

AJK · « **Reply #157 on:** March 29, 2020, 04:54:48 PM »

Are any programs still operating?

jj1000 · « **Reply #158 on:** March 31, 2020, 02:11:21 PM »

https://amp.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241632126.html

NYC Jewish school sues South Beach hotel for $2.3 million refund after coronavirus axes trip

Menachem613 · « **Reply #159 on:** April 06, 2020, 02:02:25 PM »

Quote from: Kvending on March 28, 2020, 10:59:12 PM

I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.

Any luck with the chargeback?