Pesach Programs

[avromie7]

So why are 500+ programs not canceled yet? Cuomo offered to shut anyone with over 500 people down if they want.

1) How many pesach programs are there in NY? Especially over 500 people. 2) Cuomo just announced this less than 24 hours ago.

[israshot]

So why are 500+ programs not canceled yet? Cuomo offered to shut anyone with over 500 people down if they want.
Edit: I guess they have to wait till later today for the rule to go in effect.

Maybe you can rephrase your question to "how can they run a program illegally?"
Yes, they will officially cancel probably the beginning of next week regardless of insurance, but the insurance is a good incentive to wait for these legal measures.

[db23]

programs in florida?

[aygart]

1) How many pesach programs are there in NY? Especially over 500 people. 2) Cuomo just announced this less than 24 hours ago.

Many.

[PlatinumGuy]

1) How many pesach programs are there in NY? Especially over 500 people. 2) Cuomo just announced this less than 24 hours ago.

It's getting worse. Most shuls in NY are closed this Shabbos already. Many schools across the country.

Anyone who believes there will be a Pesach program in US or Europe is being delusional.

Ironically Thailand may be one of the only programs still going.

[moko]

Many.

not so many. The ones that have confirmed that they are still planning on opening are Honors Haven and Hudson Valley. I don't think the Raleigh or Oppenheimers confirmed if they're opening or not. How many more programs in NYS do you know of?
NJ has a bunch and they still think they're opening....

[moko]

It's getting worse. Most shuls in NY are closed this Shabbos already. Many schools across the country.

Many Boston shuls are closing though I find it odd that we've closed shuls before we closed in-store shopping which would seem to be much worse and a lower priority.
Boston schools sent out an email saying they'd follow what the public school system does which hasn't closed yet...

[moko]

This is from yesterday
https://www.totallyjewishtravel.com/passover_resorts/passover-programs-2020-confirmed

[israshot]

NJ has a bunch and they still think they're opening....

NJ with only 29 cases, they don't see it yet the same way as NY. Although it just a matter of days until the numbers goes up there too. Again, they need a legal reason to be forced to cancel it.
The same way as Broadway shows needed Cuomo to claim their insurance.

[PlatinumGuy]

NJ with only 29 cases, they don't see it yet the same way as NY. Although it just a matter of days until the numbers goes up there too. Again, they need a legal reason to be forced to cancel it.
The same way as Broadway shows needed Cuomo to claim their insurance.

Almost no tests in NJ.

[aygart]

not so many. The ones that have confirmed that they are still planning on opening are Honors Haven and Hudson Valley. I don't think the Raleigh or Oppenheimers confirmed if they're opening or not. How many more programs in NYS do you know of?
NJ has a bunch and they still think they're opening....

I meant in general not the ones "still opening"

[moko]

I meant in general not the ones "still opening"

I understood. There aren't that many in NYS. Many more in CT and NJ

[yuneeq]

NJ with only 29 cases, they don't see it yet the same way as NY. Although it just a matter of days until the numbers goes up there too. Again, they need a legal reason to be forced to cancel it.
The same way as Broadway shows needed Cuomo to claim their insurance.

50 in NJ

[Let3]

I have family that was supposed to go to Spain.
They canceled on the program, but as of now the program said they will still operate.
They said they already invested too much money that they cannot get back so it is not worth it for them to shut, rather keep whatever people they can get.
Not offering any deposits back (or credits for next year etc).

[zh cohen]

I wonder if they'll put some kind of an ad this week announcing closure or some other measures, or they're just conserving cash at this point.

They ran the same ad this week (in the English Mishpacha)

[ExGingi]

They ran the same ad this week (in the English Mishpacha)

I guess English Mishpacha is on a 1 week delay. This week Hebrew Mishpacha had only 2 pages of Pesach Program ads.

With the new regulations I guess they should all realize that none are happening.

[zale]

I guess English Mishpacha is on a 1 week delay. This week Hebrew Mishpacha had only 2 pages of Pesach Program ads.

With the new regulations I guess they should all realize that none are happening.

Considering that they are making money off the ads, I don't see why they would.

[ExGingi]

Considering that they are making money off the ads, I don't see why they would.

I was referring to the advertisers, not the publishers.

[dealfinder11]

I was referring to the advertisers, not the publishers.

most buy ads as a block (say for 10 weeks) so money already spent.

[zale]

I have family that was supposed to go to Spain.
They canceled on the program, but as of now the program said they will still operate.
They said they already invested too much money that they cannot get back so it is not worth it for them to shut, rather keep whatever people they can get.
Not offering any deposits back (or credits for next year etc).

Next year we will be seeing long contracts for Pesach programs that will state things like “not responsible for unforeseen epidemics etc”