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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2020, 01:59:35 PM »
Wrong. In the news section of this past weekend Hebrew Mishpacha.




No one told them that a virus is not bacteria???

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2020, 08:27:43 AM »
No one told them that a virus is not bacteria???

That's either not the only thing they are unaware of, or not the only thing they overlook for marketing purposes.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2020, 09:08:47 AM »
We were scheduled to have a family Pesach in israel at a program on a kibbutz.
Obviously with ElAl cancelling flights and the new 14-day quarantine requirement - that is no longer possible.
As unlikely as it sounds, the tour operator claims it's "business as usual" and the program will go on as planned.
In my opinion - Not Likely. 
Even israelis won't want to be in crowds of strangers, confined for meals and services.
Accordingly, the operators don't want to refund our money - only give credits for some future travel.
Any ideas on how to proceed with them to get our money back?

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2020, 09:48:54 AM »
Would you work at a pesach program if it was a significant portion of your income? Would you classify it as essential travel?

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #45 on: March 12, 2020, 06:06:04 PM »
As of now I'm planning on going to the pesach hotel outside CLE, we'll see what happens.

I can imagine an enormous amount of machlokes in the hotel/orlando/airbnb space. Many people have non-refundable reservations or reservations without any clear contract regarding cancellations.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #46 on: March 12, 2020, 06:11:48 PM »
As of now I'm planning on going to the pesach hotel outside CLE, we'll see what happens.

I can imagine an enormous amount of machlokes in the hotel/orlando/airbnb space. Many people have non-refundable reservations or reservations without any clear contract regarding cancellations.
Going to be a disaster.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #47 on: March 12, 2020, 06:12:21 PM »
Any chance that NYS will allow any programs to go ahead? I highly doubt it. Israel started by banning large numbers, and came down to 100+ at this point. I don't see how NYS doesn't follow that trajectory. I really hope the organizers have some insurance or backup to not endure a total financial wipeout (though I would assume there's a chain to suffer consequences, not everything stops at the organizers).
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #48 on: March 12, 2020, 06:14:21 PM »
Going to be a disaster.
Nothing is going to be a disaster, it's all a matter of prospective, and up to your attitude!
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #49 on: March 12, 2020, 07:32:39 PM »
What can I do about it...Switzerland has 268 confirmed cases and rapidly growing.
Switzerland   854   6   4   
unfortunately, the above are the current numbers for sick in Switzerland, with 6 deceased

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2020, 07:36:41 PM »
Switzerland   854   6   4   
unfortunately, the above are the current numbers for sick in Switzerland, with 6 deceased

Yet



I wonder if they'll put some kind of an ad this week announcing closure or some other measures, or they're just conserving cash at this point.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2020, 07:37:25 PM »
Anyone who believes there will be a Pesach program in US or Europe is being delusional.

Ironically Thailand may be one of the only programs still going.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #52 on: March 12, 2020, 07:38:24 PM »
Ironically Thailand may be one of the only programs still going.

Source?
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #53 on: March 12, 2020, 08:07:51 PM »
Source?
Very few cases in Thailand.

Confirmed cases have doubled in the last 17 days
From 35 cases on 23 February to 70 cases on 11 March

United States   
Confirmed cases have doubled in the last 2 days
From 472 cases on 9 March to 987 cases on 11 March

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#growth-of-cases-how-long-did-it-take-for-the-number-of-confirmed-cases-to-double
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #54 on: March 12, 2020, 08:32:48 PM »
A large portion of those in local programs are elderly people who are much more at risk but also may be unable to make pesach themselves.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #55 on: March 12, 2020, 09:02:11 PM »
A large portion of those in local programs are elderly people who are much more at risk but also may be unable to make pesach themselves.

That’s what children are for.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #56 on: March 12, 2020, 09:18:26 PM »
That’s what children are for.
Thats only for the ones who have children to help them out. Not everyone is as lucky

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #57 on: March 12, 2020, 11:00:52 PM »
Have flights booked in 3 weeks to Australia for Pesach.
Whats the speculation on international flight travel?
Any speculation how friendly USA and Aus will be at that stage?

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2020, 11:03:12 PM »
Have flights booked in 3 weeks to Australia for Pesach.
Whats the speculation on international flight travel?
Any speculation how friendly USA and Aus will be at that stage?
Why would you risk traveling?
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #59 on: March 12, 2020, 11:20:45 PM »
Have flights booked in 3 weeks to Australia for Pesach.
Whats the speculation on international flight travel?
Any speculation how friendly USA and Aus will be at that stage?

The best advice I can give you is prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Nobody, not even so-called "experts" knows what will happen in 3 weeks. It could get much worse, or it can blow over. Some suggest that warmer temperatures can kill off the virus in the same way it kills off the flu, while others suggest that this is not like the flu.

Again, prepare to make Pesach here, and if you are lucky, the world may be back to normal in three weeks.