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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #140 on: March 24, 2020, 06:33:16 PM »
News from Eretz Yisroel is that several Sefardic Rabbis gave a one time heter to use Zoom so elderly people can participate in a seder.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #141 on: March 24, 2020, 06:35:33 PM »
Attached.

There's an updated version out there with additional signatures.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #142 on: March 25, 2020, 01:08:41 AM »
News from Eretz Yisroel is that several Sefardic Rabbis gave a one time heter to use Zoom so elderly people can participate in a seder.
Wow incredible!!! Rav Moshe Heinemann takeh assured it in his shiur last night on TorahAnytime. Very brave psak...
Letís see how the Zoom stock is gonna do tomorrow...

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #143 on: March 25, 2020, 08:10:49 AM »
There is no way any rav, considered mainstream chariedi, will sign such a  hetter.
Have you heard of ANY of these "Rabbis" before????
None of Chacham Ovadia Yosef's children signed, no one from the Moetzes Chachmei Hatorah, not even from the Chavrei Moetzes Harabanut Harashit L'Yisrael!!!!!!!

You need "shoulders" to start with hetterim like this, its not for the Ram in some Yeshiva to sign on, or the Mara Dasra of some small Yishuv, or the Rav of a Beit Knessset.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #144 on: March 25, 2020, 08:16:25 AM »
There is no way any rav, considered mainstream chariedi, will sign such a  hetter.
Have you heard of ANY of these "Rabbis" before????
None of Chacham Ovadia Yosef's children signed, no one from the Moetzes Chachmei Hatorah, not even from the Chavrei Moetzes Harabanut Harashit L'Yisrael!!!!!!!

You need "shoulders" to start with hetterim like this, its not for the Ram in some Yeshiva to sign on, or the Mara Dasra of some small Yishuv, or the Rav of a Beit Knessset.
Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #145 on: March 25, 2020, 08:48:20 AM »
Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

Not gonna disparage anyone, but Iíd like to see someone like Rabbi Shlomo Amar (also Moroccan) on it.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #146 on: March 25, 2020, 08:52:17 AM »
Not gonna disparage anyone, but Iíd like to see someone like Rabbi Shlomo Amar (also Moroccan) on it.

Rav Mordechai Eliyahu came out strongly against it, along with Tzhoar rabonim....

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #148 on: March 25, 2020, 09:12:51 AM »

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #149 on: March 25, 2020, 09:19:49 AM »
You're funny, you wanted the previous version with all the signatures... Comes out I sent first the updated one.

Little did I know. I saw a different version than the one you posted, and since it had more signatories, I assumed it to be a later version.

I just found this news item about the retractions.
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #150 on: March 25, 2020, 12:57:53 PM »
Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

Sorry, I meant some of the other signatories

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2020, 04:16:54 PM »
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #152 on: March 27, 2020, 12:54:22 PM »
Do you know Rav Abergel?
A small yishuv?
They are all Rabonim from North Africa, not the same area where Ovadia yosef comes from.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #153 on: March 28, 2020, 10:59:12 PM »
Has anyone had luck canceling Orlando vacation rentals? I was booked through a company called Magical Vacations that is refusing to refund now...

I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #154 on: March 29, 2020, 01:55:28 AM »
Now that it is clear that all the Israel Pesach programs have been cancelled due to government regulations I would be interested in hearing what refunds others have received from the operators. We received 70% cash refund and 10% voucher. Is there any way to receive the rest of the amount from sources other than the operator (e.g., insurance, government funds)?

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #155 on: March 29, 2020, 12:58:37 PM »
Now that it is clear that all the Israel Pesach programs have been cancelled due to government regulations I would be interested in hearing what refunds others have received from the operators. We received 70% cash refund and 10% voucher. Is there any way to receive the rest of the amount from sources other than the operator (e.g., insurance, government funds)?

CC chargeback? Ask for 30% and say you donít care for the voucher.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #156 on: March 29, 2020, 03:14:29 PM »
I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.
The governor put a statewide ban on short term rentals.

Either way they should be forced to cancel.
If they donít have to cash to give you that should their problem as itís supposed to be on their books as a liability until stay.

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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #157 on: March 29, 2020, 04:54:48 PM »
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #158 on: March 31, 2020, 02:11:21 PM »
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Re: Pesach Programs
« Reply #159 on: April 06, 2020, 02:02:25 PM »
I am booked through a company called Vacasa.

They offered me 110% credit and I told them I just want a full refund. They are refusing.

I will try going through cc.

Any luck with the chargeback?