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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1880 on: November 15, 2020, 07:52:54 PM »
Are you really questioning Fauci?
Heaven forbid. He’s just trying to understand him.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1881 on: November 15, 2020, 08:07:16 PM »
Wouldn’t this disincentive people from getting vaccinated?
For people that can't see nuance, yes.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1882 on: November 15, 2020, 08:26:49 PM »
Heaven forbid. He’s just trying to understand him.

+1, I’m asking a policy question. The COVID vaccine will only be a limited success if only 20-40% of the population are willing to take it. Medical staff and at risk people will perhaps be more likely to take the vaccine and will personally benefit from the immunity it’s likely to confer. But the rest of the population (people in factories, weddings, events, crowded transportation etc.) and those they’re otherwise in contact with won’t benefit much unless a significant majority of them are vaccinated as well.

For people that can't see nuance, yes.

The masses are ignorant.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1883 on: November 15, 2020, 08:30:05 PM »
For people that can't see nuance, yes.

So.... Yes.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1884 on: November 15, 2020, 08:57:42 PM »
+1, I’m asking a policy question. The COVID vaccine will only be a limited success if only 20-40% of the population are willing to take it. Medical staff and at risk people will perhaps be more likely to take the vaccine and will personally benefit from the immunity it’s likely to confer. But the rest of the population (people in factories, weddings, events, crowded transportation etc.) and those they’re otherwise in contact with won’t benefit much unless a significant majority of them are vaccinated as well.

The masses are ignorant.


Once the option exists for anyone to get vaccinated, the government no longer has to institute policy to prevent spread. It becomes a matter of personal choice. Anyone who wishes to not become sick fully has the ability to do so, and still be a fully functioning member of society, not limited from participating in anything. Presumably a significant enough degree of the most vulnerable segment will be inoculated as to not overwhelm the medical system. Children are largely safe, so that avoids the dilemma of how to handle parents that are anti vaccinations in a massage that simultaneously protects the parents right of choice and the child's health and welfare.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1885 on: November 15, 2020, 09:57:22 PM »

Once the option exists for anyone to get vaccinated, the government no longer has to institute policy to prevent spread. It becomes a matter of personal choice. Anyone who wishes to not become sick fully has the ability to do so, and still be a fully functioning member of society, not limited from participating in anything. Presumably a significant enough degree of the most vulnerable segment will be inoculated as to not overwhelm the medical system. Children are largely safe, so that avoids the dilemma of how to handle parents that are anti vaccinations in a massage that simultaneously protects the parents right of choice and the child's health and welfare.
Don't forget the right of those who are concerned about the 10% for whom it is not effective to shun those who decline to vaccinate. THat is also a right of choice.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1886 on: November 15, 2020, 10:32:16 PM »
Once the option exists for anyone to get vaccinated, the government no longer has to institute policy to prevent spread. It becomes a matter of personal choice. Anyone who wishes to not become sick fully has the ability to do so, and still be a fully functioning member of society, not limited from participating in anything. Presumably a significant enough degree of the most vulnerable segment will be inoculated as to not overwhelm the medical system. Children are largely safe, so that avoids the dilemma of how to handle parents that are anti vaccinations in a massage that simultaneously protects the parents right of choice and the child's health and welfare.

I don’t think the government will hold a gun to people’s heads to get them to vaccinate. I do wonder what liberties/freedoms (aside from the likelihood of immunity) they might have to use to lure people to get them to vaccinate.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1887 on: November 15, 2020, 10:33:18 PM »
I don’t think the government will hold a gun to people’s heads to get them to vaccinate. I do wonder what liberties/freedoms they might have to dangle (aside from the likelihood of immunity) in front of people to get them to vaccinate.
School. Air travel.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1888 on: November 15, 2020, 10:36:25 PM »
School. Air travel.

Those are likely candidates. Let’s see how it plays out.

Once we have 3+ vaccines approved, there will be more choice out there so that people would trust at least one of the options. In addition, upon approval of each vaccine, the stockpiles of doses of that vaccine would immediately become available for distribution.

Besides for Pfizer and Moderna , I’m not sure when the other vaccines that are in US-PIII trials are likely to he approved.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1889 on: November 15, 2020, 10:37:49 PM »
Those are likely candidates. Let’s see how it plays out.

Once we have 3+ vaccines approved, there will be more choice out there so that people would trust at least one of the options. In addition, upon approval of each vaccine, the stockpiles of doses of that vaccine would immediately become available for distribution.

Besides for Pfizer and Moderna , I’m not sure when the other vaccines that are in US-PIII trials are likely to he approved.
Real question will be if those with antibodies will be exempt.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1890 on: November 15, 2020, 11:19:17 PM »
Real question will be if those with antibodies will be exempt.

According to what's currently being spouted and all the talk about reinfection, antibodies supposedly don't last forever. Some say 6 months, others say max a year (we don't know yet as we haven't even reached a year just yet). So what would be needed scientifically to get those with antibodies exempted?

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1891 on: November 16, 2020, 12:48:30 AM »
According to what's currently being spouted and all the talk about reinfection, antibodies supposedly don't last forever. Some say 6 months, others say max a year (we don't know yet as we haven't even reached a year just yet). So what would be needed scientifically to get those with antibodies exempted?
Do these vaccines give you more than antibodies?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1893 on: November 16, 2020, 10:07:34 AM »
Do these vaccines give you more than antibodies?

I have no idea. But we also need to look at the longevity of antibodies vs vaccines.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1894 on: November 16, 2020, 12:32:30 PM »
in a massage that simultaneously protects the parents right of choice and the child's health and welfare.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1895 on: November 16, 2020, 03:57:47 PM »
Their plan is published online and they're still working on refining it. Wearing masks is a start.
Just saw this now. While Biden/Harris are still working on refining their COVID strategy (which was a huge part of their campaign), they and everyone else on the left expected Trump to have it all figured out months ago when the pandemic started.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1896 on: November 16, 2020, 08:31:25 PM »
Do these vaccines give you more than antibodies?

I don’t remember the source but I remember reading that it’s possible the vaccine confers more or longer-lasting immunity than a COVID infection does.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1897 on: November 16, 2020, 08:34:02 PM »
I don’t remember the source but I remember reading that it’s possible the vaccine confers more or longer-lasting immunity than a COVID infection does.
Better hope so

Just saw this now. While Biden/Harris are still working on refining their COVID strategy (which was a huge part of their campaign), they and everyone else on the left expected Trump to have it all figured out months ago when the pandemic started.
Come on. Trump needs to have a plan. No need for Biden to form his plan before Jan 20.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1898 on: November 16, 2020, 08:51:06 PM »
Come on. Trump needs to have a plan. No need for Biden to form his plan before Jan 20.

+1. As much as I'd love to see some leadership or some semblance of an actionable plan, it would be stupid for Biden to have anything concrete at this point. By the time he has the ability to do anything, the situation on the ground will be completely different.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #1899 on: November 16, 2020, 09:06:07 PM »
Just saw this now. While Biden/Harris are still working on refining their COVID strategy (which was a huge part of their campaign), they and everyone else on the left expected Trump to have it all figured out months ago when the pandemic started.
CMIIW, but didn’t Trump have some type of leadership position or something at the time?
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