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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2380 on: April 18, 2021, 10:45:08 PM »
CDC site has a map you can scroll over and see doses administered per 100k residents. It's pretty noticeable who's lagging.

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccinations
Without looking, can I take a guess that the more rural a state is the fewer per 100k? That is what many of us had said would likely happen with the transport requirements of the mRNA shots.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2381 on: April 18, 2021, 11:36:24 PM »
Without looking, can I take a guess that the more rural a state is the fewer per 100k? That is what many of us had said would likely happen with the transport requirements of the mRNA shots.

I don't think that's the case. You'd have to break it down by county of each state in order to really determine that, and then check local news sources to see if supply is an issue. I haven't seen anything reported, but I haven't looked hard, and larger outlets may not be inclined to pick up that angle.

Interesting. There are plenty of R states that are on par with the D states. it's pretty much just the South, which might be indicative of something else

This is a pretty accurate observation, with the exception of a few Western states. Interestingly, those Southern states have high numbers of 2 demographics that have been said to trust the vaccine less than others: older White Republicans, and African Americans. In Utah, I don't know if religion is a factor.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2382 on: April 19, 2021, 12:15:41 AM »
Having had covid, I don't plan on taking the vaccine. So I will be counted as unvaccinated, although I'm actually protected.  Could that be a factor in some areas?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2383 on: April 19, 2021, 01:17:38 AM »
I don't think that's the case. You'd have to break it down by county of each state in order to really determine that, and then check local news sources to see if supply is an issue. I haven't seen anything reported, but I haven't looked hard, and larger outlets may not be inclined to pick up that angle.

This is a pretty accurate observation, with the exception of a few Western states. Interestingly, those Southern states have high numbers of 2 demographics that have been said to trust the vaccine less than others: older White Republicans, and African Americans. In Utah, I don't know if religion is a factor.
Also much more rural, generally. I expect that numbers are much lower in rural areas in all states
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2384 on: April 19, 2021, 07:58:55 AM »
Having had covid, I don't plan on taking the vaccine. So I will be counted as unvaccinated, although I'm actually protected.  Could that be a factor in some areas?

What about if your antibodies waned?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2385 on: April 19, 2021, 08:04:36 AM »
I don't think that's the case. You'd have to break it down by county of each state in order to really determine that, and then check local news sources to see if supply is an issue. I haven't seen anything reported, but I haven't looked hard, and larger outlets may not be inclined to pick up that angle.

This is a pretty accurate observation, with the exception of a few Western states. Interestingly, those Southern states have high numbers of 2 demographics that have been said to trust the vaccine less than others: older White Republicans, and African Americans. In Utah, I don't know if religion is a factor.
It is not only supply but the logistics of actual distribution. This is a significant portion of the FL experience with 60 minutes and DeSantis
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« Reply #2386 on: April 19, 2021, 08:32:35 AM »
It is not only supply but the logistics of actual distribution. This is a significant portion of the FL experience with 60 minutes and DeSantis

I understand. I'm just not sure that those states have more issues than others in that regard. I don't know that a larger percentage of their populations are more spread out than other states.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2387 on: April 19, 2021, 08:36:14 AM »
I understand. I'm just not sure that those states have more issues than others in that regard. I don't know that a larger percentage of their populations are more spread out than other states.
Dunno. Is there more granular data available?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2388 on: April 19, 2021, 08:41:36 AM »
My guess is that it has to do with suspicion of the vaccine, but not really R vs D. Maybe more more cultural

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« Reply #2389 on: April 19, 2021, 08:42:46 AM »
Dunno. Is there more granular data available?

If you click on each state, you can get a county breakdown, which would give you a slightly clearer picture. I honestly don't think the very rural areas are important in general, and definitely not at this point in the game.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2390 on: April 19, 2021, 09:00:58 AM »
If you click on each state, you can get a county breakdown, which would give you a slightly clearer picture. I honestly don't think the very rural areas are important in general, and definitely not at this point in the game.
There have been waves in rural areas fwiw. They also usually have less hospital beds etc

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2391 on: April 19, 2021, 09:14:38 AM »
There have been waves in rural areas fwiw. They also usually have less hospital beds etc

Yes, but in terms of getting as many people vaccinated as possible as quickly as possible, the urban areas are more important. Also in terms of spread, I believe that outbreaks in rural areas are more likely to stay localized. On a micro level, their health is obviously important and they need to have access to vaccines like everyone else. IMO at this point in the game, targeting urban areas is more important in the big picture.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2392 on: April 19, 2021, 09:29:12 AM »
If you click on each state, you can get a county breakdown, which would give you a slightly clearer picture. I honestly don't think the very rural areas are important in general, and definitely not at this point in the game.
The more rural a state is, the more it will be a factor in how many people were vaccinated.

It's going to be pretty difficult to compare counties, the population alone doesn't give the full picture. If you have 2 counties with 10k people, in one of them 90% of the people live in a 5 mile radius or 10 minute drive while in the other they live spread throughout. You'll have very different results.
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« Reply #2393 on: April 19, 2021, 09:36:21 AM »
The more rural a state is, the more it will be a factor in how many people were vaccinated.

It's going to be pretty difficult to compare counties, the population alone doesn't give the full picture. If you have 2 counties with 10k people, in one of them 90% of the people live in a 5 mile radius or 10 minute drive while in the other they live spread throughout. You'll have very different results.

It's not going to be perfect, but breaking it down by county gives you a better picture. I don't know how to determine which states are "more rural." I would think Montana and the Dakotas are more rural than most Southern states.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2394 on: April 19, 2021, 11:41:02 AM »
What about if your antibodies waned?
A vaccine mimics the body.  It causes production of antibodies.  Then the antibody numbers wane. But (the T-cells remember recipe for the antibodies and ) gears up production if challenged by the virus.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2395 on: April 19, 2021, 12:08:12 PM »
A vaccine mimics the body.  It causes production of antibodies.  Then the antibody numbers wane. But (the T-cells remember recipe for the antibodies and ) gears up production if challenged by the virus.

Yes and no, in some ways it mimics it and in some ways a vaccine can be produced to be more efficient than natural antibodies (e.g. the discussed boosters being developed to specifically target variants B.1.351).

In any case, if someone's natural/vaccine antibodies waned a booster could potentially boost their immunity.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2397 on: April 20, 2021, 02:33:32 PM »
Interesting. There are plenty of R states that are on par with the D states. it's pretty much just the South, which might be indicative of something else
Lol. They appear to be on par only because that chart doesn't catalog states that have above 60 doses administered per 100 people. You may as well lower the bar to 10 doses and then all states are on par...

There are 19 states with more than 70 doses per 100 people, only 2 of them didn't vote Biden, and they are at the bottom of the list (Alaska with 70,744/100,000 and SD with 72,216) despite being two of the smallest states in the country. New Hampshire is at 81, Vermont, Maine, CT, MA, & NM around ~77, many of which are very rural.


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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2398 on: April 20, 2021, 02:34:47 PM »
A vaccine mimics the body.
The vaccine mimics (a portion of) the virus, which causes the body to react to it like it reacts to the virus.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2399 on: April 20, 2021, 02:48:17 PM »
My guess is that it has to do with suspicion of the vaccine, but not really R vs D.
Every poll shows a huge R-D hesitancy gap.
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