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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2700 on: August 10, 2021, 03:11:55 PM »
What's this "Antibody Mediated Viral Enhancement" he talks about?
 When was this recorded? Maybe it was before there was any published evidence of vaccines benefiting recovered individuals.
Cant be too old as he starts off were 18 months into it

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2701 on: August 10, 2021, 03:14:49 PM »
1) Can't blame the summer outbreak on vaccines. We had a summer outbreak last year before there were vaccines.
I agree there is no proof - there was an outbreak last summer (nice flip flop on your part who argued the wave last year was a fall wave!) But it's still possible the vaccines this year are causing a spike.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2702 on: August 10, 2021, 03:16:47 PM »
Cant be too old as he starts off were 18 months into it

It looks like hes talking to some sort of school board/council, probably about the upcoming school year.

If you want to be technical, the virus was circulating in China in November 2019, so 18 months into it could be May 2020, earlier if youre rounding up.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2703 on: August 10, 2021, 03:26:36 PM »
I agree there is no proof - there was an outbreak last summer (nice flip flop on your part who argued the wave last year was a fall wave!) But it's still possible the vaccines this year are causing a spike.

Um, what?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2705 on: August 10, 2021, 03:45:15 PM »
Did you listen to it?  If so, please explain which parts you're asking about, and what your questions are.

DID YOU SEE THE EVIDENCE ON HIS FLASH DRIVE?!

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2706 on: August 10, 2021, 03:47:27 PM »
But it's still possible the vaccines this year are causing a spike.
You suggested this yesterday, and I responded to it here:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=126131.msg2484364#msg2484364

Please read that first, and then explain more fully why you think vaccines cause a spike in virus.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2707 on: August 10, 2021, 03:47:32 PM »
DID YOU SEE THE EVIDENCE ON HIS FLASH DRIVE?!
Great way to spread a virus ;)

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2708 on: August 10, 2021, 03:52:05 PM »
What's this "Antibody Mediated Viral Enhancement" he talks about?
I responded to this in a question from ChayaL a while back, and linked then to a description from CHOP (Childrens Hospital in Philadelphia) that explains why this is not a concern.  If you didn't get around to reading it then, you can read it now: https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines 

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2709 on: August 10, 2021, 03:54:08 PM »
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=116311.msg2342570#msg2342570
"You know it's fall now, right?"

1) Ah. I called the fall wave a fall wave on October 24, 2020, so that means I'm flip flopping by calling the summer wave a summer wave on August 10, 2021. Got it.

2) What does that have to do with claiming vaccines are causing a spike right now? What is that based on?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2710 on: August 10, 2021, 03:55:03 PM »
It looks like hes talking to some sort of school board/council, probably about the upcoming school year.

Yes, the school board meeting was on Friday, Aug 6, about how to handle potential outbreaks during the school year.  This was in Mt. Vernon INDIANA, not Mt Vernon NY.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2711 on: August 10, 2021, 04:06:47 PM »
You suggested this yesterday, and I responded to it here:
https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=126131.msg2484364#msg2484364

Please read that first, and then explain more fully why you think vaccines cause a spike in virus.
I was only defending the clip I don't necessarily believe he's right it was a response to Lurker that the spike last summer doesn't prove that spikes can't happen from vaccines..it happens to be this guy that was posted yesterday
https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9yc3MuYXJ0MTkuY29tL2pvaG4tc29sb21vbi1yZXBvcnRz&ep=14&episode=Z2lkOi8vYXJ0MTktZXBpc29kZS1sb2NhdG9yL1YwLzRwTXNCSE53WWE0YXNSdkJWQ1RxYThRbDJSYUVmRnlOVGNLOG9tX2wtV1U

Listen from 10:00 Dr. Robert Malone
One of the founders of mRNA vaccine
was also claiming vaccines can cause spikes

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2713 on: August 10, 2021, 04:16:06 PM »
I was only defending the clip I don't necessarily believe he's right it
Why would you want to defend something if you don't believe it is right?

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.it happens to be this guy that was posted yesterday  was also claiming vaccines can cause spikes
Yes, there are many people making claims, and some of them even have academic credentials in science and medicine.
Why do you think these two particular doctors are credible?

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2714 on: August 10, 2021, 04:20:08 PM »
1) Ah. I called the fall wave a fall wave on October 24, 2020, so that means I'm flip flopping by calling the summer wave a summer wave on August 10, 2021. Got it.
actually you insisted the wave last year was because of the predicted fall wave not a random wave as I was suggesting - you agreed with this guy that spikes happen in the fall..
2) What does that have to do with claiming vaccines are causing a spike right now? What is that based on?
listen to his claims - not mine

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2715 on: August 10, 2021, 04:24:12 PM »

@biobook your comments please.
@ExGingi  What was there in this video that you found interesting?

If you'd like a scientist's look at the claims, see the extensive response by Edward Nirenberg, who writes better and more quickly than I could.
https://www.deplatformdisease.com/blog/addressing-dr-daniel-stock-claims

For those in the TLDR camp, his last line sums up his analysis:  "I can honestly say that I dont think there was any part of the 6 minutes and 30 seconds of that entire video that was completely truthful or accurate which is quite unsettling."

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2716 on: August 10, 2021, 04:27:48 PM »
actually you insisted the wave last year was because of the predicted fall wave not a random wave as I was suggesting - you agreed with this guy that spikes happen in the fall..
quote author=Lurker link=topic=114650.msg2484746#msg2484746 date=1628625248]
2) What does that have to do with claiming vaccines are causing a spike right now? What is that based on?
 listen to his claims - not mine

Again... um, what? You know that summer and fall are 2 different seasons, right? A fall wave last year wasn't random. It followed the pattern of previous pandemics. Summer spikes happened last year, as well. Me calling a season by its name isn't flip flopping. (Not that I have an issue with changing my opinion. It's evolved throughout this pandemic, right along with most people.)

I did listen to his claims. He said that respiratory infections don't happen in the summer, and the fact they they are happening now MUST be attributed to the vaccines. I said that claim was false, as evidenced by infections we saw last summer, before there were vaccines. If you (or him) want to claim vaccines are causing the spike, you need more than "infections don't happen in the summer" as proof, since that's just not true.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2717 on: August 10, 2021, 04:30:12 PM »
Why would you want to defend something if you don't believe it is right?
I don't know who is right or wrong but You have to make credible arguments - @Lurker in my opinion wasn't

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2718 on: August 10, 2021, 04:32:52 PM »
I don't know who is right or wrong but You have to make credible arguments - @Lurker in my opinion wasn't
Ah yes the "#justasking" defense

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2719 on: August 10, 2021, 04:33:15 PM »
Not sure what thread to post this in

https://twitter.com/savelakewoodnj/status/1425120016085704707

ETA: I have no idea about the event itself, and if the people purported to be attending will actually be attending, I just found this humorous.