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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2880 on: August 31, 2021, 12:35:27 PM »
You lose credibility when you say or post arguments that a medicine can't work because it works for animals. They may have minor variations but there are hundreds of medications that are used for both. Don't we test our medicines/ vaccines first on animals?

You didn't hear what he said. He says there's a human version, but people are stupid and are buying the animal version and being hospitalized for it.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2881 on: August 31, 2021, 12:47:25 PM »
You lose credibility when you say or post arguments that a medicine can't work because it works for animals. They may have minor variations but there are hundreds of medications that are used for both. Don't we test our medicines/ vaccines first on animals?
This guy is a comedian, not a medical professional*; he's not trying to convince anyone - he's providing entertainment.

*(although I'm not sure if that matters to you)

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2882 on: August 31, 2021, 12:48:52 PM »
You didn't hear what he said. He says there's a human version, but people are stupid and are buying the animal version and being hospitalized for it.
Not what I hear - do you have a different version of Twitter? This and many others trying to discredit ivermectin by poking fun of how crazy people can be to promote a drug for horses when in reality it's like saying alcohol is dangerous to promote because there's rubbing alcohol..

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2883 on: August 31, 2021, 12:54:55 PM »
This guy is a comedian, not a medical professional*; he's not trying to convince anyone - he's providing entertainment.

*(although I'm not sure if that matters to you)
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« Reply #2884 on: August 31, 2021, 12:55:42 PM »
Not what I hear - do you have a different version of Twitter? This and many others trying to discredit ivermectin by poking fun of how crazy people can be to promote a drug for horses when in reality it's like saying alcohol is dangerous to promote because there's rubbing alcohol..

55 seconds in.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2885 on: August 31, 2021, 01:02:17 PM »
Also a comedy club?

Did you click on the link?

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The FDA has received multiple reports of patients who have required medical support and been hospitalized after self-medicating with ivermectin intended for horses.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2886 on: August 31, 2021, 01:04:18 PM »
Also a comedy club?
This was posted because there are those who are getting a hold of the animal version to use when they can't get a script for the human version. Yes this is actually happening and yes there are those who are doing this.

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=123622.msg2410686#msg2410686

ETA: It seems there are different forms of this for people and for animals.

https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19
What is Ivermectin and How is it Used?

Ivermectin tablets are approved by the FDA to treat people with intestinal strongyloidiasis and onchocerciasis, two conditions caused by parasitic worms. In addition, some topical (on the skin) forms of ivermectin are approved to treat external parasites like head lice and for skin conditions such as rosacea. Some forms of ivermectin are used in animals to prevent heartworm disease and certain internal and external parasites. Itís important to note that these products are different from the ones for people, and safe when used as prescribed for animals, only.

Ivermectin Products for Animals Are Different from Ivermectin Products for People

For one thing, animal drugs are often highly concentrated because they are used for large animals like horses and cows, which can weigh a lot more than we doóa ton or more. Such high doses can be highly toxic in humans.

Moreover, FDA reviews drugs not just for safety and effectiveness of the active ingredients, but also for the inactive ingredients. Many inactive ingredients found in animal products arenít evaluated for use in people. Or they are included in much greater quantity than those used in people. In some cases, we donít know how those inactive ingredients will affect how ivermectin is absorbed in the human body.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2887 on: August 31, 2021, 01:06:12 PM »
You lose credibility when you say or post arguments that a medicine can't work because it works for animals. They may have minor variations but there are hundreds of medications that are used for both. Don't we test our medicines/ vaccines first on animals?

You lose credibility when you get your information from Twitter headlines.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2888 on: August 31, 2021, 01:19:49 PM »
You lose credibility when you get your information from Twitter headlines, FYI

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2890 on: August 31, 2021, 01:25:26 PM »
This was posted because there are those who are getting a hold of the animal version to use when they can't get a script for the human version. Yes this is actually happening and yes there are those who are doing this.
You're not being honest - the media politicians etc. are clearly trying to discredit and make fun of ivermectin by saying it's meant for animals, putting people in the emergency room etc. That is not why ivermectin should not be used or doesn't work against covid. Ivermectin when used correctly is perfectly safe and can and has been used on human beings, yet most articles conveniently leave it out

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2891 on: August 31, 2021, 01:30:16 PM »
This was posted because there are those who are getting a hold of the animal version to use when they can't get a script for the human version. Yes this is actually happening and yes there are those who are doing this.
Why is the animal version easier to obtain ?

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« Reply #2892 on: August 31, 2021, 01:33:20 PM »
You're not being honest - the media politicians etc. are clearly trying to discredit and make fun of ivermectin by saying it's meant for animals, putting people in the emergency room etc. That is not why ivermectin should not be used or doesn't work against covid. Ivermectin when used correctly is perfectly safe and can and has been used on human beings, yet most articles conveniently leave it out

Ivermectin should not be used to treat Covid. Additionally, it is extremely dangerous when people ignore medical advice and try to source Ivermectin themselves, because they end up buying the animal product, which can lead to hospitalization and death. Have I cleared this up for you?
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« Reply #2893 on: August 31, 2021, 01:34:16 PM »
Why is the animal version easier to obtain ?

It's an OTC treatment for worms in horses.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2894 on: August 31, 2021, 01:38:57 PM »
Ivermectin should not be used to treat Covid. Additionally, it is extremely dangerous when people ignore medical advice and try to source Ivermectin themselves, because they end up buying the animal product, which can lead to hospitalization and death. Have I cleared this up for you?
I'm just pointing out why the media, politicians, health agencies have a credibility issue

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« Reply #2895 on: August 31, 2021, 01:44:32 PM »
I'm just pointing out why the media, politicians, health agencies have a credibility issue

We agree that there is a credibility issue. This isn't why, though. Medical consensus is that Ivermectin shouldn't be used. If your doctor thinks Ivermectin is good for Covid, s/he can source it for you, and the public messaging isn't for you. The issue is that people insist on ignoring medical advice, and compound the issue by trying to source their meds themselves. For all the idiots who try to buy the drug themselves at their local pet store, the messaging is very accurate.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2896 on: August 31, 2021, 01:50:05 PM »
I'm just pointing out why the media, politicians, health agencies have a credibility issue
That may be, but in this particular case some Americans have a stupidity issue.  There have been numerous calls to Poison Control Centers around the country from people who took the animal version of Ivermectin.  Some have been hospitalized.  Veterinary stores are running low on supplies of Ivermectin for farm animals. 

The FDA's mission is to protect Americans from dangerous foods and drugs, and that was the goal of the recent message.  How would you have handled this problem differently?

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2897 on: August 31, 2021, 02:02:43 PM »
You don't have to practice, but you do have to ask dozens (or hundreds) of people about their opinions and then omit all the reasonable ones.
That is normally the case but not after seeing this crowd.
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« Reply #2898 on: August 31, 2021, 02:14:00 PM »
That may be, but in this particular case some Americans have a stupidity issue.  There have been numerous calls to Poison Control Centers around the country from people who took the animal version of Ivermectin.  Some have been hospitalized.  Veterinary stores are running low on supplies of Ivermectin for farm animals. 

The FDA's mission is to protect Americans from dangerous foods and drugs, and that was the goal of the recent message.  How would you have handled this problem differently?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #2899 on: August 31, 2021, 02:19:27 PM »
You're not being honest - the media politicians etc. are clearly trying to discredit and make fun of ivermectin by saying it's meant for animals, putting people in the emergency room etc. That is not why ivermectin should not be used or doesn't work against covid. Ivermectin when used correctly is perfectly safe and can and has been used on human beings, yet most articles conveniently leave it out
Wait one second. The issue is what politicians and articles are saying? I was answering about the FDA.
I'm just pointing out why the media, politicians, health agencies have a credibility issue
Why would what those idiots say make people lose confidence in health agencies? Someone who expects science from politicians is a bigger idiot than they are.
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