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[ExGingi]

Accompanying article.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-04/trump-recommends-vaccines-in-ad-that-helped-boost-uptake

I believe it’s linked in the thread.

[Dan]

https://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/headlines-breaking-stories/2074345/i-think-we-know-fauci-says-we-may-never-know-if-lockdowns-were-worth-it-video.html

Meh. Maybe not in NYC where it was too late, but the lockdown period from Purim to Pesach likely saved many lives in other communities.

[AsherO]

Meh. Maybe not in NYC where it was too late, but the lockdown period from Purim to Pesach likely saved many lives in other communities.

Fauci is talking about from a Public Health perspective, where in retrospect where COVID is still a thing in April 2022, and vaccines weren’t readily available until a year into the pandemic, to what extent a few months of lockdown affected the overall bottom line COVID impact (I guess measured in deaths) in the US.

[Dan]

Fauci is talking about from a Public Health perspective, where in retrospect where COVID is still a thing in April 2022, and vaccines weren’t readily available until a year into the pandemic, to what extent a few months of lockdown affected the overall bottom line COVID impact (I guess measured in deaths) in the US.

I'm referring to YWN's snarky headline, not Fauci's pondering.
The vaccine was part of the solution, but we learned a lot about treating COVID during the ~6 weeks bought by the original lockdown. The fact that no other Jewish community had anything like what NYC had after Purim is telling.

[AsherO]

I'm referring to YWN's snarky headline, not Fauci's pondering.
The vaccine was part of the solution, but we learned a lot about treating COVID during the ~6 weeks bought by the original lockdown. The fact that no other Jewish community had anything like what NYC had after Purim is telling.

That I can agree with. Hypothetically speaking the same strain of COVID in early 2021 (pre-Delta mind you) would have made for better outcomes בדרך הטבע.

[ExGingi]

He couldn't do it without mentioning Trump several times, as if it would be any different under any other administration.

https://twitter.com/davidmcswane/status/1512831441796841475

[Euclid]

He couldn't do it without mentioning Trump several times, as if it would be any different under any other administration.

https://twitter.com/davidmcswane/status/1512831441796841475

Someone is trying to get a movie/tv deal

[jye]

I'm referring to YWN's snarky headline, not Fauci's pondering.
The vaccine was part of the solution, but we learned a lot about treating COVID during the ~6 weeks bought by the original lockdown. The fact that no other Jewish community had anything like what NYC had after Purim is telling.

The mass hysteria leading to the original lockdowns also resulted in intubating patients unnecessarily for fear of treating them without a closed environment, and led to substandard medical care by medical professionals who were terrified to have any contact with patients. This, along with the absurd nursing home directives directly case a substantial amount of the deaths in the Jewish community in NY/NJ. You really can’t separate the two.

[Dan]

The mass hysteria leading to the original lockdowns also resulted in intubating patients unnecessarily for fear of treating them without a closed environment, and led to substandard medical care by medical professionals who were terrified to have any contact with patients. This, along with the absurd nursing home directives directly case a substantial amount of the deaths in the Jewish community in NY/NJ. You really can’t separate the two.

AKA, there was a benefit to the lockdown in waiting for the hysteria to end and to better learn how to treat it.

[AsherO]

AKA, there was a benefit to the lockdown in waiting for the hysteria to end and to better learn how to treat it.

There were those who benefitted, but it was at the expense of others who were harmed. Obviously it was and is all Yad Hashem but maybe there are lessons to be learned.

[Dan]

but maybe there are lessons to be learned.

Sadly, I don't think we're any more prepared for the next global health crisis than we were in 2019.

[AsherO]

Sadly, I don't think we're any more prepared for the next global health crisis than we were in 2019.

Of course, we’re too busy pointing fingers still, at least here in the USA. But that’s wasn’t your point, and you're right, we aren’t more prepared. But we should be, because we see the havoc wreaked by a pandemic, in so many areas.

[4yourinfo]

AKA, there was a benefit to the lockdown in waiting for the hysteria to end and to better learn how to treat it.

That was never the intent of the lockdown - The question is also what parts of the "Lockdown" actually did anything. I don't think the closing of playgrounds non essential stores etc. Did anything to slow the spread. You don't catch a cold in Walmart you possibly catch it at work, in school parties/events etc.

[Dan]

That was never the intent of the lockdown

Says you.
Also, the lockdown that red states had was not the same as the lockdown blue states had.

[aygart]

That was never the intent of the lockdown - The question is also what parts of the "Lockdown" actually did anything. I don't think the closing of playgrounds non essential stores etc. Did anything to slow the spread. You don't catch a cold in Walmart you possibly catch it at work, in school parties/events etc.

How much of that was known then?

[ckmk47]

How much of that was known then?

Most of what's known today, was known by late srping/ early summer of 2020.  But nobody in power was listening to the right people. They were carried away by covid hysteria/ fear/ power.


Barely transmitted outdoors.
6' is an arbitrary distance.
Indoors, HEPA filters and fresh air lowers the transmission.
Obese people are at higher risk of complications.
Diabetics are at higher risk of complications.
Older people are at higher risk of complications.
Young, healthy people are at very low risk of complications.
Treat the pneumonia like ARDS; use respirators correctly.
Natural immunity from having had it, is protective.


So schools and shuls can reopen for young, healthy people.  Older teachers, especially with health issues, shouldn't be there. (Until they get the vaccine.)
Outdoor spaces should be open with families staying a bit separate from each other.
Old or otherwise vulnerable people should self quarantine to the degree that they can.  No indoor visits or hugging from the more exposed family.   

[Ver hut gazugt]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1512974880463114241?s=20&t=e5Lx61d1uYtyHtbbQtjG_g

[PlatinumGuy]

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1512974880463114241?s=20&t=e5Lx61d1uYtyHtbbQtjG_g

https://twitter.com/thisiswenhao/status/1511755811349053453

[aygart]

Most of what's known today, was known by late srping/ early summer of 2020.  But nobody in power was listening to the right people. They were carried away by covid hysteria/ fear/ power.


Barely transmitted outdoors.
         This was pretty clear pretty quick
6' is an arbitrary distance.
         Partially. There is no exact distance to give. It scales down and depends on exact environmental conditions. Guidance needs to have some number to use.
Indoors, HEPA filters and fresh air lowers the transmission.
         Yes but not very actionable.
Obese people are at higher risk of complications.
         So close to half the adult population. Not a very strong argument.
Diabetics are at higher risk of complications.
Older people are at higher risk of complications.
Young, healthy people are at very low risk of complications.
         The definitions of this are very vague. This was discussed at the time that a very high percentage seemed to be "at risk". At this point it does seem that
Treat the pneumonia like ARDS; use respirators correctly.
Natural immunity from having had it, is protective.
          Time has shown that the protection from natural immunity wanes JUST LIKE THEY SUSPECTED.


So schools and shuls can reopen for young, healthy people.  Older teachers, especially with health issues, shouldn't be there. (Until they get the vaccine.)
         Don't leave out obese. What percentage does that leave?
Outdoor spaces should be open with families staying a bit separate from each other.
Old or otherwise vulnerable people should self quarantine to the degree that they can.  No indoor visits or hugging from the more exposed family.   

See bolded above. Even this leaves the original lockdowns intact. I agree that they should have been eased out of quicker.

[Dan]

I agree that they should have been eased out of quicker.

This was a function of where you lived and how you define "lockdown." Some states were mostly normal by May 2020. Others are still not back to normal.