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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3022 on: December 22, 2021, 12:05:04 PM »

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3023 on: December 22, 2021, 12:45:33 PM »
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3025 on: December 23, 2021, 10:10:59 PM »
Meanwhile in Israel there seems to be a lack of veterinarian hospital beds. The death toll due to Avian Flu is in the thousands, and rising. No reports on vaccination levels.

https://twitter.com/yair_kraus/status/1474062966819594243?s=21

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3026 on: December 23, 2021, 10:42:19 PM »
Meanwhile in Israel there seems to be a lack of veterinarian hospital beds. The death toll due to Avian Flu is in the thousands, and rising. No reports on vaccination levels.

https://twitter.com/yair_kraus/status/1474062966819594243?s=21
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3030 on: December 29, 2021, 12:24:56 AM »
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3031 on: December 29, 2021, 12:35:15 AM »
https://twitter.com/danedneymd/status/1475932321471737864

Are these numbers actually true?

The “10% and climbing” seems suspicious. Climbing? On what basis it he claiming that death rate for unvaccinated 65+ year olds is going up?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3032 on: December 29, 2021, 01:39:50 AM »
The “10% and climbing” seems suspicious. Climbing? On what basis it he claiming that death rate for unvaccinated 65+ year olds is going up?

Mississippi in last 4 weeks had 20k new cases and 136 deaths, or about 0.6% mortality rate, which translates to about .06% if Biden gave access to monoclonal antibodies.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3033 on: December 29, 2021, 03:28:59 PM »
Mississippi in last 4 weeks had 20k new cases and 136 deaths, or about 0.6% mortality rate, which translates to about .06% if Biden gave access to monoclonal antibodies.
He's almost certainly using cumulative totals since the start of the pandemic. Also, if you're trying to show the mortality rate is low now, you'd have to stratify by vaccination status to make it relevant to the tweet.

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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3034 on: December 29, 2021, 03:52:30 PM »
Mississippi in last 4 weeks had 20k new cases and 136 deaths, or about 0.6% mortality rate, which translates to about .06% if Biden gave access to monoclonal antibodies.

“If Biden gave access”, you make it sound like he’s withholding available supply. As chief executive he should have done more, I agree, but it’s not like he’s intentionally strangling them for political reasons.

As for your math, deaths lag. Unfortunately sometimes people are hospitalized for months before passing. So of the 136 deaths, how many tested positive before the last 4 weeks? There are unfortunately still some of those 20k that are at risk of dying. Basically, it’s too soon to give an exact number.

Let’s say we did have an exact number of 136, how many of those are above 65? Say 50 are of those, let’s say 45 are unvaccinated. How many of the 20k positives are above 65? Say 20%, or 4000. Of those, say 2200 are unvaccinated, that gets you to over 2%. If any of my numbers are wrong, and as illustrated in my previous paragraph, the 136 number is too low, then 10% might be plausible, especially if the hospitals in question are overrun and standards of care are suboptimal.

The real question I have is, what does “and counting” mean? Why would the percentages rise?
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3035 on: December 29, 2021, 04:02:32 PM »
He's almost certainly using cumulative totals since the start of the pandemic. Also, if you're trying to show the mortality rate is low now, you'd have to stratify by vaccination status to make it relevant to the tweet.

Cumulative totals could make sense, especially since a year ago no one was vaccinated and standards of care were lower because doctors were still figuring things out and treatments protocols weren’t yet developed. Still begs the question what “and counting” means, it sounds like hyperbole because death rates should drop over time, especially if Omicron is less severe as is being suggested.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3036 on: December 29, 2021, 05:53:35 PM »
He's almost certainly using cumulative totals since the start of the pandemic. Also, if you're trying to show the mortality rate is low now, you'd have to stratify by vaccination status to make it relevant to the tweet.

The entire tweet is useless, using numbers from the beginning of COVID to prove how dangerous COVID is right now. Furthermore, "mortality rate" is not a standard term for measuring "survival rate" as is implied. Seems like he was using CFR, when IFR is a far better measure of "survival rate". Also I wasn't trying to prove the current death rate, all these responses about how deaths lag, looking at vaccination status, miss the point that I was just trying to refute. COVID is certainly far less dangerous right now than the tweet implies. If hypothetically COVID was cured today and the survival rate is now 100%, IDGAF if the survival rate was 95% 2 years ago.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3037 on: December 29, 2021, 06:01:41 PM »
The entire tweet is useless, using numbers from the beginning of COVID to prove how dangerous COVID is right now. Furthermore, "mortality rate" is not a standard term for measuring "survival rate" as is implied. Seems like he was using CFR, when IFR is a far better measure of "survival rate". Also I wasn't trying to prove the current death rate, all these responses about how deaths lag, looking at vaccination status, miss the point that I was just trying to refute. COVID is certainly far less dangerous right now than the tweet implies. If hypothetically COVID was cured today and the survival rate is now 100%, IDGAF if the survival rate was 95% 2 years ago.

The 10% does seem high, especially at this point and for Omicron. At the same time COVID survival rate isn’t at 100% and you did offer math that was inexact (to say the least) for determining how dangerous COVID is for an unvaxxed 65 y/o.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3038 on: December 29, 2021, 06:20:43 PM »
To date, Mississippi had 526k Covid cases, 10k deaths due to covid + 10k deaths with covid a contributing factor, so 2% fatality rate is actually grounded in realitiy and not a fiction. The numbers have no bearing to Omicron in a vaccinated population but are astounding nonetheless.
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Re: Tweets, Pictures, And Videos That Are Coronavirus Related
« Reply #3039 on: December 29, 2021, 06:30:01 PM »
To date, Mississippi had 526k Covid cases, 10k deaths due to covid + 10k deaths with covid a contributing factor, so 2% fatality rate is actually grounded in realitiy and not a fiction. The numbers have no bearing to Omicron in a vaccinated population but are astounding nonetheless.

What do you make of the “10% and counting” figure?
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