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Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week?
« Reply #2220 on: May 24, 2020, 12:38:44 AM »
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Re: Re: So How Was Your Shul This Week?
« Reply #2221 on: May 24, 2020, 12:52:40 AM »
Local NYPD source claimed that if everything went well on Shabbos, limits will be raised to 20-30 for Shavuos.
It would be too soon to know.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2222 on: May 24, 2020, 12:57:47 AM »
I don't know but I've heard prominent Baal tzedaka in Miami Beach passed away Friday from covid19 he was 65.
I heard something like he was on a  vent for 5 weeks I dunno.

Just because you don't see these things doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
BDE. So he caught the virus 6-7 weeks ago. Where does that put us TODAY almost 2 months later? All this data and these "new" positives aren't all that relevant if the person had symptoms 5 weeks ago and isn't contagious today. How long is someone contagious for?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2223 on: May 24, 2020, 12:59:09 AM »
BDE. So he caught the virus 6-7 weeks ago. Where does that put us TODAY almost 2 months later? All this data and these "new" positives aren't all that relevant if the person had symptoms 5 weeks ago and isn't contagious today. How long is someone contagious for?
You tell us
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2224 on: May 24, 2020, 01:17:18 AM »
BDE. So he caught the virus 6-7 weeks ago. Where does that put us TODAY almost 2 months later? All this data and these "new" positives aren't all that relevant if the person had symptoms 5 weeks ago and isn't contagious today. How long is someone contagious for?

It tells you that there are people here that had it in assuming the people who still have it and assuming that it's still being spread.

Probably in a much lower scale. But Just because things are quiet does not mean that they won't get loud.

Just as all the NY / NJ folks were all chilled out Purim time

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2225 on: May 24, 2020, 01:18:23 AM »
I saw that the museum of Houston has tempature testing. I wonder if we can do this at shuls

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2226 on: May 24, 2020, 01:18:56 AM »
I saw that the museum of Houston has tempature testing. I wonder if we can do this at shuls
On Shabbos?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2227 on: May 24, 2020, 01:19:58 AM »
It tells you that there are people here that had it in assuming the people who still have it and assuming that it's still being spread.
that's a lot of assuming there

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2228 on: May 24, 2020, 01:22:14 AM »
Articles like this make me nervous about shuls reopening:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

It certainly rings true that most people aren't spreading COVID19, hence why 1 person in a family has antibodies.
But it'll just take one super-spreader event to take down an entire community.

Hopefully my fears are unfounded.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2229 on: May 24, 2020, 01:28:01 AM »
Articles like this make me nervous about shuls reopening:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

It certainly rings true that most people aren't spreading COVID19, hence why 1 person in a family has antibodies.
But it'll just take one super-spreader event to take down an entire community.

Hopefully my fears are unfounded.
Fascinating, and helps explain why some people donít infect even close family members. Iíve seen this theory before but never so clearly.

Wouldnít we then need a much higher threshold for herd immunity if certain people are way more infectious? Asking out of ignorance
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2230 on: May 24, 2020, 01:29:52 AM »
Articles like this make me nervous about shuls reopening:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

It certainly rings true that most people aren't spreading COVID19, hence why 1 person in a family has antibodies.
But it'll just take one super-spreader event to take down an entire community.

Hopefully my fears are unfounded.
The reality that in BP-Willy-KJ-Monsey that were open more or less for weeks already and no uptick in cases needs to be explained. And perhaps is anecdotal evidence that youíre fears are dumbfounded.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2231 on: May 24, 2020, 01:31:28 AM »
The reality that in BP-Willy-KJ-Monsey that were open more or less for weeks already and no uptick in cases needs to be explained. And perhaps is anecdotal evidence that youíre fears are dumbfounded.
From what it seems it can take much more than 3 weeks to really start showing.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2232 on: May 24, 2020, 01:31:32 AM »
Fascinating, and helps explain why some people donít infect even close family members. Iíve seen this theory before but never so clearly.

Wouldnít we then need a much higher threshold for herd immunity if certain people are way more infectious? Asking out of ignorance
This article does give some hope to the idea that contact tracing if done right (may be too late) could work.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2233 on: May 24, 2020, 01:35:43 AM »
The reality that in BP-Willy-KJ-Monsey that were open more or less for weeks already and no uptick in cases needs to be explained. And perhaps is anecdotal evidence that youíre fears are dumbfounded.
Source that there is not an uptick in cases? @ckmk47 has reported an uptick in hospitalizations, per Hatzalah BP
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2234 on: May 24, 2020, 01:36:45 AM »
From what it seems it can take much more than 3 weeks to really start showing.
its more than three weeks and there should be at least some uptick by now

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2235 on: May 24, 2020, 01:38:07 AM »
its more than three weeks and there should be at least some uptick by now
Based on what? From what it seems it was spreading in the community silently since Jan/Feb.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2236 on: May 24, 2020, 01:38:33 AM »
Fascinating, and helps explain why some people donít infect even close family members. Iíve seen this theory before but never so clearly.
I guess if you yell a lot at your wife and kids they should catch it and if you are more softspoken to them they shouldn't ;)

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2237 on: May 24, 2020, 01:40:19 AM »
Source that there is not an uptick in cases? @ckmk47 has reported an uptick in hospitalizations, per Hatzalah BP
Whatís his source? I havenít seen on any Jewish news sites about an uptick. Additionally BH our own DDF Tehillim board has been quite dormant Bh. But even if itís true how are you gonna explain Willy? Monsey? KJ?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2238 on: May 24, 2020, 01:43:09 AM »
Articles like this make me nervous about shuls reopening:
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/why-do-some-covid-19-patients-infect-many-others-whereas-most-don-t-spread-virus-all

It certainly rings true that most people aren't spreading COVID19, hence why 1 person in a family has antibodies.
But it'll just take one super-spreader event to take down an entire community.

Hopefully my fears are unfounded.
The guy in the choir had symptoms for a few days but thought it was a cold. The lawyer in New Rochelle who was a big early source of spread in NY was running around with symptoms for weeks (he had been to doctors and they couldn't figure out what it was)
every shul is saying if you have symptoms don't come. It is likely someone without symptoms is not going to be a superspreader

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2239 on: May 24, 2020, 01:43:35 AM »
Whatís his source? I havenít seen on any Jewish news sites about an uptick. Additionally BH our own DDF Tehillim board has been quite dormant Bh. But even if itís true how are you gonna explain Willy? Monsey? KJ?
Heard directly from a Hatzalah member (itís a her btw). I havenít heard DPs from either of them. Have you? It always starts with a small number of cases, which slowly but steadily grows.. of course we are hoping thatís not the case but where is your confidence that it is coming from?

The tehillim list was very short for a long time before Purim. Does that mean it wasnít spreading fast?
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