For my health I shouldn't bother, but....
1) You can't call an analogy moronic when someone else makes it, and then toss it out at me yourself. (unless I was the one making the analogy, and I wasn't)
You weren't and it wasn't connected to you, but it's been thrown out a lot today and it's starting to grow on me in our new situation. Wait, hear me out: there are generally accepted precautions like seat belts and not driving impaired (masks and social distancing), and there are local rules and enforcement like speed limits and speed cameras which may be illogical and counter-productive (like illogical shul capacities and business closings).
2) Even your flawed analogy is flawed. You're leaping from unreasonable speed limits to drunk driving?
I'm going from unreasonable speed limits (illogical business/shul closings) to throwing out the baby with the bathwater and going to extremes like drunk driving (kiddushim, 70 people crammed in a house with no masks).
3) There absolutely is plenty of evidence that more relaxed speeding limits improves overall driving quality and reduces accidents, but that's besides the point and I'm not getting into that argument.
My point exactly. Just because the rules are flat out wrong, doesn't excuse over-reacting in dangerous ways.
4) I didn't say the behavior is justified or correct, I said it's inevitable under the current rules.
Inevitable doesn't mean we have to justify them or not try as hard as we can to correct them.
You and @S209 are either being deliberately obtuse or are so entrenched in the debate over the past months you aren't understanding what we're saying. I'm making the same point that Aygart and Formerly Ginger have made in this thread. We absolutely cannot have people behaving as they are right now. It's dangerous. But as long as the regulations don't allow for people to resume activities in a safe manner, there isn't a lick we can do about it.
This is where we disagree. I've had a bad feeling about Memorial Day weekend and Shavuos for a long time. DDF gives me a platform where I can try to explain to people why I feel the way I do. Most will not listen, for the reasons you explained. People are done. They were sick, or they think they were sick, they've been treated poorly, they're done listening. I get it. But maybe, just maybe, I can fantasize that something I say will click, and someone will be a little safer. Maybe someone who's already being safe will take the time to reach out to someone else and convince them to take a few extra precautions. Probably not, but I'm going to try.
I have a friend, who you actually happen to know, who was in the hospital and on a vent for a bit. He's 35 years old, skinny guy, no history of issues. He's going to be in rehab for a bit, thank G-d. He's far from the only one. If I can sit here from the safety of my home and maybe keep one person - a husband, a father, a son, anybody! - from getting sick over the next couple of weeks, it's worth it.
Continued extreme lockdowns are making safe social distancing impossible.
They are making it extremely difficult. But the answer isn't, "Screw it all!" Do whatever you can, because it's more than nothing, and that something may just be the difference in keeping another name off a list that's already way too long.
