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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #320 on: March 18, 2020, 01:16:01 PM »


Is there a bal habayis or two that can influence him? Is there even one doctor in the shul?
The president of the shul who is a medical professional cant seem to convince him!!!
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #321 on: March 18, 2020, 01:18:03 PM »
The president of the shul who is a medical professional cant seem to convince him!!!

People should just stop showing up.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #322 on: March 18, 2020, 01:19:51 PM »
People should just stop showing up.
...and boycott them when it is all over.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #323 on: March 18, 2020, 01:21:07 PM »
The president of the shul who is a medical professional cant seem to convince him!!!
So what kind of evidence would possibly convince him?
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #324 on: March 18, 2020, 01:21:30 PM »
Anyone have a list of shuls in BP that are closed. The obstinate shoiteh rav of a big shul with an elderly population of members need "evidence" before he closes his shul. Maybe its time to start naming names...

Someone just has to scare his constituency from showing up. He can isolate himself in Shul if he prefers.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #325 on: March 18, 2020, 01:21:52 PM »
So what kind of evidence would possibly convince him?
Someone dying. Or everyone being too sick to come.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #326 on: March 18, 2020, 01:23:37 PM »
Someone just has to scare his constituency from showing up. He can isolate himself in Shul if he prefers.
Why do so many here think his constituency will stop showing up? They all think the same AND they have rav to rely on.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #327 on: March 18, 2020, 01:25:12 PM »
Why do so many here think his constituency will stop showing up? They all think the same AND they have rav to rely on.

If we cant get through to him we can try to speak sense into them. Chip away at the weakest link, once people start buying in the tides can turn.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #328 on: March 18, 2020, 01:25:52 PM »
So what kind of evidence would possibly convince him?
A verifieable list of local shuls. He doesnt want to hear about Lakewood or 770 hes keeing up with the Jonses' there is a shteibel on the next block.
Someone dying. Or everyone being too sick to come.
This will probably need to happen unfortunately.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #329 on: March 18, 2020, 01:28:28 PM »
A verifieable list of local shuls. He doesnt want to hear about Lakewood or 770 hes keeing up with the Jonses' there is a shteibel on the next block.
Shomer shabbos, Stolin, probably Bobov 48
Ill try to find more

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #330 on: March 18, 2020, 01:33:30 PM »
Shomer shabbos, Stolin, Bobov 48
Ill try to find more
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #331 on: March 18, 2020, 01:46:41 PM »
This will probably need to happen unfortunately.

Pious fools RL.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #332 on: March 18, 2020, 01:49:05 PM »
Pious fools RL.
Youre too kind. Stubborn Mules. There is no piety in this decision. Its a game of chicken. So if you're playing a game for animals...you can be called one too.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #333 on: March 18, 2020, 02:00:17 PM »
Youre too kind. Stubborn Mules. There is no piety in this decision. Its a game of chicken. So if you're playing a game for animals...you can be called one too.

Even worse. Theyre not doing it to workship G-d, theyre doing it out of vanity and peer pressure. Herd mentality backfiring in a really ugly way. How sad, sheep to the slaughter RL.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #334 on: March 18, 2020, 02:08:27 PM »
Some old folks really pissed that theyre being refused entry & being told to stay home.
Cant fix stupid

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #335 on: March 18, 2020, 02:20:19 PM »
I think many just see this as some type of gezeira and better to daven and die than to live without shulls

Sadly this is simply not going to hit till it explodes.

And then they will claim to weren't warned

They will claim they didn't see it coming

They will blame the internet, gay parades, link shaitels red lipstick, Pink toe nails...

So sad...

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #336 on: March 18, 2020, 02:35:06 PM »
The president of the shul who is a medical professional cant seem to convince him!!!

Then maybe the President of the shul and board should overule the Rav!

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #337 on: March 18, 2020, 02:37:08 PM »
Then maybe the President of the shul and board should overule the Rav!
It doesn't work that way in a shteibel.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #338 on: March 18, 2020, 02:42:22 PM »
Then maybe the President of the shul and board should overule the Rav!

To qualify my statement - I am not g-d forbid, suggesting that the Board should overrule the Rav in halachic matters. What I am suggesting is at some point this becomes a business/compliance matter, and maybe we word a statement like - 'While the Rav insists that we keep the shul open, we are required to state that the vast majority of health professionals have urged people not to congregate at this time'.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #339 on: March 18, 2020, 02:42:50 PM »
It doesn't work that way in a shteibel.

So then what is the president in charge of? Kiddush?