Corona virus and your shul

[aygart]

We are talking of people staying on their own decks, not gathering together.

We are talking about joining with people who are gathering together.

[Eliyohu]

This is besides that joining from different places is only bshaas hadchack. Once the rabbonim say not to do it then it can no longer qualify.

Please question is purely להגדיל תורה ...  (Mostly) Not practical purposes...

Do you have sources for such a situation as to what would be considered tefillah b'tzibur as far as distance from each other? Is porches considered a diff room?
What Kol Chai with minyanim on the radio to be considered bzman shatzibur mispallim etc..

[yesitsme]

Please question is purely להגדיל תורה ...  (Mostly) Not practical purposes...

Do you have sources for such a situation as to what would be considered tefillah b'tzibur as far as distance from each other? Is porches considered a diff room?
What Kol Chai with minyanim on the radio to be considered bzman shatzibur mispallim etc..

[yitzgar]

We are talking about joining with people who are gathering together.

Interesting, because I'd say the opposite is true. They aren't playing with a full deck while you are....

[yesitsme]

Interesting, because I'd say the opposite is true. They aren't playing with a full deck while you are....

OMG Miscommunication at its best, need to activate zoom

[yitzgar]

Please question is purely להגדיל תורה ...  (Mostly) Not practical purposes...

Do you have sources for such a situation as to what would be considered tefillah b'tzibur as far as distance from each other? Is porches considered a diff room?
What Kol Chai with minyanim on the radio to be considered bzman shatzibur mispallim etc..

Rav Heineman says there is no point in davening the same time as others if you aren't together halachicly. (You don't have to worry, as among the thousands of Jews in the world, you are certainly davening at the same time as many others)

[yuneeq]

Staying each on their own deck is not a problem.

The problem is that you tell your friends how you made you minyan, and your neighbor sends a whatsapp picture - "look! we were still able to make a minyan!". The next guy thinks we will also do outdoors, but doesn't realize you shouldn't be within 6 feet, or after davening goes to shmooze with his buddies. You don't need to theorize about this, there are still dozens of pictures and videos of people  on top of each other that have no idea how the virus transmits, or perhaps they simply don't care. People dancing with interlocked arms - at least they're not touching hands they're all good!

The rabbonim are not stupid. They know that it is physically possible to make a safe minyan. Yet they banned even safe minyanim due to the huge outbreak of idiocy that has overcome Jewish communities. No minyan is a safe minyan.

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[yesitsme]

https://www.kikar.co.il/abroad/352150.html

if you have extra time on hand you can read the comments too

אני לא מחזיק שני מכשירים, שקרן, אני מגיב ממחשב ולא מסמארטפון או אייפון טמא, שאפילו עם סינון יש הבדל גדול בין איפון קטן שנכנס לכיס וממכר כי אתה עם זה 24 שעות ולמחשב שאתה נמצא שם רק מספר שעות ביום, זה הבדל גדול,

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https://www.kikar.co.il/abroad/352150.html

if you have extra time on hand you can read the comments too

That made me laugh

[TimT]

https://www.kikar.co.il/abroad/352150.html

if you have extra time on hand you can read the comments too

Why isn’t every rabbi ordering this ?

[yesitsme]

Done forget about MM

[CountValentine]

Is that @Dan and @jj1000

[good sam]

Is that @Dan and @jj1000

That joke has been banned

[CountValentine]

That joke has been banned

I thought it was the @Dan joke that was banned?

[aygart]

Please question is purely להגדיל תורה ...  (Mostly) Not practical purposes...

Do you have sources for such a situation as to what would be considered tefillah b'tzibur as far as distance from each other? Is porches considered a diff room?
What Kol Chai with minyanim on the radio to be considered bzman shatzibur mispallim etc..

Siman 55 13-20

[Tomy]

I don't know why you think I'm blaming anyone. You should read what I've wrote before.

Maybe read again what you wrote before?
You're acting like someone that he's father has tested positive, you're taking it too personal

[israshot]

Maybe read again what you wrote before?
You're acting like someone that he's father has tested positive, you're taking it too personal

Not only my father, but my mother also and 3 siblings.

[Tomy]

Not only my father, but my mother also and 3 siblings.

So it is very personal, that's the reason why you're acting the way you act

[chbochur]

Please question is purely להגדיל תורה ...  (Mostly) Not practical purposes...

Do you have sources for such a situation as to what would be considered tefillah b'tzibur as far as distance from each other? Is porches considered a diff room?
What Kol Chai with minyanim on the radio to be considered bzman shatzibur mispallim etc..

טזבַּמֶּה דְּבָרִים אֲמוּרִים? כְּשֶׁהָעוֹמְדִים בַּחוּץ אֵינָם נִרְאִים לְהָעוֹמְדִים בִּפְנִים,קיב אֲבָל מִי שֶׁמַּרְאֶה פָּנָיו לְהָעוֹמְדִים בְּבֵית הַכְּנֶסֶת, אֲפִלּוּ הוּא עוֹמֵד אֲחוֹרֵי בֵּית הַכְּנֶסֶת וּמַרְאֶה לָהֶם פָּנִים דֶּרֶךְ חַלּוֹן שֶׁבֵּינֵיהֶם, אֲפִלּוּ גָּבוֹהַּ כַּמָּה קוֹמוֹת, אֲפִלּוּ אֵינוֹ רָחָב ד' – מִצְטָרֵף עִמָּהֶם לַעֲשָרָה.
אֲבָל מִי שֶׁאֵינוֹ מַרְאֶה פָּנִים לָהֶם, אֲפִלּוּ עוֹמֵד עַל גַּבֵּיהֶן מִלְמַעְלָה עַל גַּג בֵּית הַכְּנֶסֶת – אֵינוֹ מִצְטָרֵף עִמָּהֶם,קיד בֵּין שֶׁעוֹמֵד עַל הַגָּג מַמָּשׁ בֵּין שֶׁעוֹמֵד עַל עֳבִי הַכְּתָלִים שֶׁל בֵּית הַכְּנֶסֶת, שֶׁגַּם עֳבִי הַכְּתָלִים אֵינָם נִגְרָרִים אַחַר תּוֹכָם לִהְיוֹת נִדּוֹן כִּלְפָנִים אַף עַל פִּיקטו שֶׁאֵינוֹ מַרְאֶה פָּנָיו לָהֶם:


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