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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #960 on: April 14, 2020, 11:20:57 AM »
Are these the leading Rabbonim in Lakewood? Anything from the ראשי ישיבה?
Yes. When these Rabbonim put out a statement like this, a statement from the Roshei Yeshiva would be basically superfluous, as they are the Yeshiva poskim.
Dear BMG Parents, Talmidim and Friends,

 

A Gut Moed,

 

I hope this email finds you and your family safe and well.

 

Attached please find critical updated Psakim from the 4 BMG Poskim about Minyanim, socialization, shopping, travel and more.

 

Note kindly that their definitive clear Psak bans all Minyanim including so called “porch” Minyanim.

 

Wishing you a safe Yomtov and Yeshuos for all of Klal Yisroel,

 

Rabbi Aaron Kotler

President and Chief Executive Officer

Beth Medrash Govoha

 

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #961 on: April 14, 2020, 11:25:03 AM »
Dear BMG Parents, Talmidim and Friends,

 

A Gut Moed,

 

I hope this email finds you and your family safe and well.

 

Attached please find critical updated Psakim from the 4 BMG Poskim about Minyanim, socialization, shopping, travel and more.

 

Note kindly that their definitive clear Psak bans all Minyanim including so called “porch” Minyanim.

 

Wishing you a safe Yomtov and Yeshuos for all of Klal Yisroel,

 

Rabbi Aaron Kotler

President and Chief Executive Officer

Beth Medrash Govoha

 
People who start their email with the outdated and irrelevant "I hope this email finds you well."

(got one today, inspired this thread)
If you don't care why would you comment?
HT: DMYD

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #962 on: April 14, 2020, 11:30:11 AM »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #963 on: April 14, 2020, 11:31:17 AM »
Maybe I missed it, but whats the concern with porch minyanim?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #964 on: April 14, 2020, 11:38:17 AM »
Maybe I missed it, but whats the concern with porch minyanim?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #965 on: April 14, 2020, 11:45:01 AM »
Maybe I missed it, but whats the concern with porch minyanim?
Start with לא פלוג and לועג לרש.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #966 on: April 14, 2020, 11:46:44 AM »
Maybe I missed it, but whats the concern with porch minyanim?
That old gag
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #968 on: April 14, 2020, 11:56:37 AM »
This is powerful but everyone is still going to say “doesn’t apply to ME”.. can’t win

I know people that changed their plans because of it
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #969 on: April 14, 2020, 12:28:30 PM »
Maybe I missed it, but whats the concern with porch minyanim?

אסור משום איבה

I'm not sure if that means from goyim or other Jews.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #970 on: April 14, 2020, 12:31:09 PM »
אסור משום איבה

I'm not sure if that means from goyim or other Jews.

do you want a pogrom? do you understand were in galus? Hisgarus b'umos isnt only the zionim. Can be in the USA too.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #971 on: April 14, 2020, 12:31:46 PM »
do you want a pogrom? do you understand were in galus? Hisgarus b'umos isnt only the zionim. Can be in the USA too.
relax. He was just trying to clarify

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #972 on: April 14, 2020, 12:35:38 PM »
relax. He was just trying to clarify

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #973 on: April 14, 2020, 12:38:37 PM »
relax. He was just trying to clarify

You're telling someone called Chapshnell to relax?  ::)
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #974 on: April 14, 2020, 12:42:48 PM »
אסור משום איבה

I'm not sure if that means from goyim or other Jews.

I should hope from Jews too.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #975 on: April 14, 2020, 12:44:02 PM »
Read the last paragraph of the Hebrew version on the Lakewood scoop.
Hebrew version below. Highlights are mine.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #976 on: April 14, 2020, 01:16:03 PM »
I would not be surprised if more pictures start getting released of rabbonim and roshei yeshiva davening at home.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #977 on: April 14, 2020, 01:21:52 PM »
During Kinus Torah (over Zoom) Rabbi Braun of the Crown Heights Beis Din addressed the issue. He mentioned various arguments made, and said that the Beis Din unanimously decided to forbid all minyanim, indoors and outdoors, without mentioning any reasoning, so that no one could say that the reasoning isn't relevant to him. He did mention several arguments that can be made against making minyanim, but the bottom line is that (sofek) pikuach nefesh trumps everything and is a sufficient reason.

However, he did say that name calling is wrong. He ended by saying that if someone believes that he can make a minyan in a totally safe manner he should know that it is עליו ועל צווארו.

The audio

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #978 on: April 14, 2020, 01:22:47 PM »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #979 on: April 14, 2020, 01:32:10 PM »
Can someone post the audio here of Rabbi Forshimer