Author Topic: Corona virus and your shul (Read 449627 times)

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #360 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:41:18 AM »

Quote from: AsherO on March 19, 2020, 08:08:29 AM

This is way overdue. The CH Beis Din seems to have a delay in their guidance.

Was there ever any substantiated expert guidance advising that outdoor gatherings were not a problem?

Why be more machmir than official government requirements (not suggested "guidelines")?

ExGingi · « **Reply #361 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:44:38 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:41:18 AM

Why be more machmir than official government requirements (not suggested "guidelines")?

See Rambam הלכות דעות פרק ב הלכה ב.

CountValentine · « **Reply #362 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:45:06 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:41:18 AM

Why be more machmir than official government requirements (not suggested "guidelines")?

To save lives?

Chapshnell · « **Reply #363 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:46:15 AM »

Quote from: stooges44 on March 19, 2020, 05:55:25 AM

Now you can see him say it as well!

https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=105366

thanks!

ExGingi · « **Reply #364 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:50:36 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 19, 2020, 10:44:38 AM

See Rambam הלכות דעות פרק ב הלכה ב.

https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Human_Dispositions.2?lang=bi

mochjas · « **Reply #365 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:51:45 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 19, 2020, 10:36:46 AM

If I'll manage I will post later on a video that is going around on WhatsApp of the bochurim that arrived in Israel being told their status. They are basically all being moved to isolation at a hotel in Jerusalem. Each getting their own room. Anyone presenting symptoms will be moved to a medical facility. Health ministry is assuming anyone arriving from Crown Heights is positive.

Free Hotel? Not bad!

ExGingi · « **Reply #366 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:53:11 AM »

Quote from: mochjas on March 19, 2020, 10:51:45 AM

Free Hotel? Not bad!

Worthy of a DDMS post - get a free hotel stay in Israel (for Israeli citizens only) all meals included.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #367 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:53:16 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 19, 2020, 10:44:38 AM

See Rambam הלכות דעות פרק ב הלכה ב.

Quote from: CountValentine on March 19, 2020, 10:45:06 AM

To save lives?

Please explain what the issue would be when they are
in very small groups
outdoors
practicing "social distancing"
all young and healthy individuals
who are not in any contact with at-risk (older and underlying conditioned) populations?

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #368 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:54:18 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 19, 2020, 10:53:11 AM

Worthy of a DDMS post - get a free hotel stay in Israel (for Israeli citizens only) all meals included.

Ocean view IINM!

israshot · « **Reply #369 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:55:34 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:53:16 AM

Please explain what the issue would be when they are
in very small groups
outdoors
practicing "social distancing"
all young and healthy individuals
who are not in any contact with at-risk (older and underlying conditioned) populations?

Quote from: israshot on March 19, 2020, 08:22:51 AM

The reason they did so is because ppl were going to the 770 backyard and it was also full.

ExGingi · « **Reply #370 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:55:59 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:53:16 AM

Please explain what the issue would be when they are
in very small groups
outdoors
practicing "social distancing"
all young and healthy individuals
who are not in any contact with at-risk (older and underlying conditioned) populations?

Did you look up the Rambam? (I posted a bi-lingual link above) Especially the last sentence. They are taking these extreme measures because the Oilom wasn't taking restrictions seriously.

ExGingi · « **Reply #371 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:56:29 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:54:18 AM

Ocean view IINM!

Wrong. Not much of an ocean view from Jerusalem...

mochjas · « **Reply #372 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:57:23 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:53:16 AM

Please explain what the issue would be when they are
in very small groups
outdoors
practicing "social distancing"
all young and healthy individuals
who are not in any contact with at-risk (older and underlying conditioned) populations?

https://www.facebook.com/100000998495476/posts/2933557926687462/?d=n

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #373 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:58:20 AM »

Quote from: ExGingi on March 19, 2020, 10:56:29 AM

Wrong. Not much of an ocean view from Jerusalem...

I thought I read somewhere that the government started a Corona hotel in Tel Aviv as well...

CountValentine · « **Reply #374 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:58:27 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:53:16 AM

Please explain what the issue would be when they are
in very small groups
outdoors
practicing "social distancing"
all young and healthy individuals
who are not in any contact with at-risk (older and underlying conditioned) populations?

If they can follow those precautions nothing but do you really believe they will?
Right now it is a mindset. We have to change how we act and think right now before it is to late.

ExGingi · « **Reply #375 on:** March 19, 2020, 10:59:05 AM »

Quote from: Galitzyaner on March 19, 2020, 10:58:20 AM

I thought I read somewhere that the government started a Corona hotel in Tel Aviv as well...

That was for locals.

CountValentine · « **Reply #376 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:02:25 AM »

Quote from: mochjas on March 19, 2020, 10:57:23 AM

https://www.facebook.com/100000998495476/posts/2933557926687462/?d=n

OUCH! Talk about laying it all out there.

Galitzyaner · « **Reply #377 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:18:39 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 19, 2020, 10:58:27 AM

If they can follow those precautions nothing but do you really believe they will?
Right now it is a mindset. We have to change how we act and think right now before it is to late.

In (most) groups that I saw, people were behaving in a correct manner.

chevron · « **Reply #378 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:30:09 AM »

chevron · « **Reply #379 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:31:47 AM »

Quote from: CountValentine on March 19, 2020, 10:58:27 AM

If they can follow those precautions nothing but do you really believe they will?
Right now it is a mindset. We have to change how we act and think right now before it is to late.

It doesn't really work because your mentality is so ingrained That's why you have to take such extreme measures including total isolation