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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #615 on: March 29, 2020, 11:21:56 PM »
we heard this outcry over and over again.
no need to hear this again.
everybody agrees.
agree. I think at this point, the best thing would be to do something outward to the general public if we are hoping to accomplish something. Some sort of emergency PSA effort

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #616 on: March 29, 2020, 11:22:42 PM »
Who wouldn't dial it up to 11??? People are dying!
How does it help to use foul language about some of the greatest talmidei chachomim of our generation?
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #617 on: March 29, 2020, 11:26:15 PM »
People that bashed the rebbe was because their rabbi did. Is your rabbi bashing the other rabbis that didnít close their Shul earlier ?
 
  On a side note, is itís really pikuach nefesh  to go to Shul why are groceries opened regularly ? Shouldnít we all just wait curb side by a store and get a box of essentials for the week ? Or maybe just eat beans the whole day ?  Iím not saying I disagree that itís pikuach nefesh but why isnít it more strictly enforced in all areas ? ( news reporters by the briefing today, like wth!)   

I have not gone into a store in 2 weeks

And personally was trying that method but man I got bored of eating the same stuff always.

For me it's rough because every day I used to go out to the coffee shop different ones and I would work from there and read from there and just sit in the window and watch people etc.

I started making coffee at home again.

I'm sad to pass my shul(l) daily and see it closed. I spent many years of my life working to get it built.

Sure I would love if everyone here pledged never  to talk in shull as a plea to God to once more merit to pray in the mikdash me'aat.

I would love to hear everyone who has kids to pledge that they will teach their kids "da lifnei mi ata omed" and "umikdashai tirau"

But yeah listen, a lot of ahavas yisrael going around now and it's great.

I really am super impressed at the guys in my shul in doing the 5:30am daf on zoom 🤣 When they could easily sleep in and watch it later on YouTube, no 6:30 minyan anyways .



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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #618 on: March 29, 2020, 11:26:22 PM »
Who wouldn't dial it up to 11??? People are dying!
#1, what can you do abt it?
#2. everybody goes out for what they seem essential. some see minyan as essential. and the minyonim I see are upholding to the rules pretty well.
The people here feel that these minyonim also need to stop.

BTW, I do not attend those minyanim.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #619 on: March 29, 2020, 11:28:40 PM »
#2. everybody goes out for what they seem essential. some see minyan as essential. and the minyonim I see are upholding to the rules pretty well.
Speak for yourself. We haven't.
Unreal to see people so maykil in sakanos nefashos. So much for being a smart people.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #620 on: March 29, 2020, 11:30:54 PM »
How does it help to use foul language about some of the greatest talmidei chachomim of our generation?
It doesn't, but I don't see the same energy spent on an outcry about the minyanim taking place. @chevron is right to pull the alarm bells, and so should everyone. No should sit on their laurels and say, "what should I do?". "Who will listen to me?" "They know already." Etc.

Everyone has a responsibility to do whatever they could to save a life.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #621 on: March 29, 2020, 11:31:05 PM »
Speak for yourself. We haven't.
Unreal to see people so maykil in sakanos nefashos. So much for being a smart people.
I also didn't leave for quite a few days.
despite the fact, that its hard to get basics delivered in Brooklyn.
but theres no outcry for people going to grocery, just about minyanim.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #622 on: March 29, 2020, 11:32:58 PM »
#1, what can you do abt it?
#2. everybody goes out for what they seem essential. some see minyan as essential. and the minyonim I see are upholding to the rules pretty well.
The people here feel that these minyonim also need to stop.

BTW, I do not attend those minyanim.

My father went to the mikva every day since he became frum, minyan 3 times daily. He hasent gone in 2.5 weeks


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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #623 on: March 29, 2020, 11:33:30 PM »
I also didn't leave for quite a few days.
despite the fact, that its hard to get basics delivered in Brooklyn.
but theres no outcry for people going to grocery, just about minyanim.
I hope youíre not going to grocery 3 times a day.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #624 on: March 29, 2020, 11:34:22 PM »
It doesn't, but I don't see the same energy spent on an outcry about the minyanim taking place. @chevron is right to pull the alarm bells, and so should everyone. No should sit on their laurels and say, "what should I do?". "Who will listen to me?" "They know already." Etc.

Everyone has a responsibility to do whatever they could to save a life.
I don't know what his motive is, but if you think disparaging rabbanim and gedolei hador will save lives, I have news for you.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #625 on: March 29, 2020, 11:34:31 PM »
#1, what can you do abt it?
#2. everybody goes out for what they seem essential. some see minyan as essential. and the minyonim I see are upholding to the rules pretty well.
The people here feel that these minyonim also need to stop.

BTW, I do not attend those minyanim.
I certainly donít attend the minyanim. I have mixed feelings towards them but in general harshly discourage anyone who asks me about going.

Still, my brother in law who HAS been attending mentioned that at the minyan he attends the one who organized it got up in the beginning and said that anyone who attends this minyan must be mekabel to never miss a minyan again in their life- or else they donít deserve to daven.

Couple points: I have since convinced this bil to stop attending, although he said they daven outside with minimum 10 feet between mispallelim and less than 15 per minyan always, and zero interaction with each other. Also, he hasnít missed minyan until now in many many years, sacrificing much money, effort, and sleep at times to make it, including arranging and paying for minyanim on stopovers when he travels etc. Still, he has finally come around and has stopped, though it is heartbreaking for him.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #626 on: March 29, 2020, 11:35:18 PM »
Speak for yourself. We haven't.
Unreal to see people so maykil in sakanos nefashos. So much for being a smart people.
It comes from having zero education in the basics of Yiddishekeit. Everything is כמצוות אנשים מלומדה. Do they even think for a second if that is what Hashem wants? Did they even ever open a Shulchan Aruch to see where Safek Pikiach Nefesh ranks and where making a minyan ranks? Did they ever stop to think even for a second that if there is even a miniscule chance that they are causing someone's death, then it's Assur to make that minyan, כל שכן that it's much more than that and they are רשעים גמורים who will go first class to גהינם? I guess they never opened a Tanach and saw the admonitions of Yeshaye Hanuvie.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #627 on: March 29, 2020, 11:35:33 PM »
I also didn't leave for quite a few days.
despite the fact, that its hard to get basics delivered in Brooklyn.
but theres no outcry for people going to grocery, just about minyanim.

There is and was.. grocery store owners on the one hand are businessmen and the other hand they are providing a necessary amenity.

Some stores got very strict between social distancing between allowing only a few people in the store at once between forcing people to wear gloves and a mask

You sound like my friend "texting and driving is more dangerous than drinking and driving"

It's not a and or option, neither should be done. I just made an order from Costco with instacart

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #628 on: March 29, 2020, 11:36:47 PM »
I don't know what his motive is, but if you think disparaging rabbanim and gedolei hador will save lives, I have news for you.
You didn't understand what I wrote.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #629 on: March 29, 2020, 11:40:15 PM »
You didn't understand what I wrote.
Which part? That everyone has a responsibility to do whatever they can to save a life?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.