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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #720 on: March 30, 2020, 05:09:14 PM »
I guess we should open a poll.
מצוה
מצוה הבא בעבירה
מסירת נפש
מסירת נפש של אחרים
רוצח
רודף
Idiot
none of the above.
I prefer to not voice my opinion.

Anyone davening with a minyan against the directions of the rabbonim is showing the intentions of going to shul really is (and I don't mean that it is lshem shomayim)
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #721 on: March 30, 2020, 05:12:38 PM »
Anyone davening with a minyan against the directions of the rabbonim is showing the intentions of going to shul really is (and I don't mean that it is lshem shomayim)
some here are against ANY sort of minyan.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #722 on: March 30, 2020, 05:14:11 PM »
This needs to be memed.

You mean someone needs to take a screenshot and add their own watermark to it?

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #723 on: March 30, 2020, 05:18:22 PM »
some here are against ANY sort of minyan.
That's not true. You are just saying that because you're trying to paint those who are trying to save lives as anti frum. שטן על מה חייב? משום צובע.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #724 on: March 30, 2020, 05:24:19 PM »
Okay ladies and gents, I don't want to have to babysit this thread and its posters. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks, and don't name individuals or communities unless there's a to'eles.

Thank you.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #725 on: March 30, 2020, 05:25:20 PM »
Okay ladies and gents, I don't want to have to babysit this thread and its posters. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks, and don't name individuals or communities unless there's a to'eles.

Thank you.
everyone thinks thereís a toeles for everything they say...

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #726 on: March 30, 2020, 05:35:40 PM »
to'eles.

Toeles
Toy-eh-less
adjective

1) Meets an individual's personal agenda
"My post that @Something Fishy is a liar and a cheat was not gossip, it was l'toeles; so that no one goes on his trips. It had nothing to do with my ongoing feud with his mother in law."

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #727 on: March 30, 2020, 05:41:24 PM »
Toeles
Toy-eh-less
adjective

1) Meets an individual's personal agenda
"My post that @Something Fishy is a liar and a cheat was not gossip, it was l'toeles; so that no one goes on his trips. It had nothing to do with my ongoing feud with his mother in law."

It's also important to mention that if you do go on one if his trips, you may come back toeles(s).


..but still cold enough to lose a toe or toe...
Wanna go hunt for Aurora Borealis? I still have a couple toes left  ;)
How about an intense 3 days or so of running around and chasing the aurora interspersed with hours of standing out in the cold hunched over a camera, that should be good for losing a toe or two :)

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #728 on: March 30, 2020, 05:42:32 PM »
some here are against ANY sort of minyan.

That is correct. The rabbonim are against making any sort of minyanim. Originally we had a minyan between 4 families each on their own porch. Based on the advice of local rabbonim my family will no longer be participating.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #729 on: March 30, 2020, 05:48:36 PM »
Toeles
Toy-eh-less
adjective

1) Meets an individual's personal agenda
"My post that @Something Fishy is a liar and a cheat was not gossip, it was l'toeles; so that no one goes on his trips. It had nothing to do with my ongoing feud with his mother in law."

Leave my shvigger out of this, you pathetic peripatetic.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #730 on: March 30, 2020, 05:50:23 PM »
Leave my shvigger out of this, you pathetic peripatetic.
Hey easy on the ad hominem attacks.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #731 on: March 30, 2020, 05:56:07 PM »
The Kotzker (CMIIW) said It best...If you believe all the stories about the Baal Shem happened youre a fool...

You forgot the second half of the quote "if you don't believe them, you are a kofer"

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #732 on: March 30, 2020, 05:57:55 PM »
Okay ladies and gents, I don't want to have to babysit this thread and its posters. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks, and don't name individuals or communities unless there's a to'eles.

Thank you.
Thank you

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #733 on: March 30, 2020, 05:58:51 PM »
Leave my shvigger out of this, you pathetic peripatetic.

Oh, you want to go the alliteration route? I'd rethink that with your names beginning with an S and an F.

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #734 on: March 30, 2020, 06:00:38 PM »
You forgot the second half of the quote "if you don't believe them, you are a kofer"
and it finishes "so you have to believe that i could have happened"
« Last Edit: March 30, 2020, 06:08:31 PM by mme »

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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #735 on: March 30, 2020, 06:05:23 PM »
You forgot the second half of the quote "if you don't believe them, you are a kofer"
Correct. i didnt think this sophisticated crowd needed me to finish a well know vort.  ;D

 So somewhere in between is a good balance.

 So when you look in the mirror after this is all over and you didnt go to a minyan and followed psak halacha does that make you a bad Jew? NO. Does that make you someone who wasnt moiser nefesh for a mitzvah? No.

My whole point is that this vision that has been cultivated in these biographies of what mesrius nefesh looks/looked like is now coming home to roost in what is clearly not a situation that requires mesirus nefesh. Everyone wants to look in the mirror and see themselves as having done the right thing. The right thing is not to be doing something that has been banned. Going lifnim meshuras hadin in tying to circumvent the ban is not mesirus nefesh. Someone please post the quote for our resident shabbos goy about fooling our G-d   
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #736 on: March 30, 2020, 06:15:46 PM »
Okay ladies and gents, I don't want to have to babysit this thread and its posters. Please refrain from ad hominem attacks, and don't name individuals or communities.

Thank you.
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #737 on: March 30, 2020, 06:17:44 PM »
https://col.org.il/news/123927

Minyan in EY of COVID-19 positive people offering to say Kaddish for others.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #738 on: March 30, 2020, 07:07:44 PM »
Moreover, if the attacks are on a religion, piety is understandable. In this case, it's an external force.
This is the main point people are not understanding. There is a major difference between shaas hashmad and shaas hamageifa. Thatís why I actually do understand some people in Meah Shearim, they believe itís just a ruse by the Tzionim. But who do you think youíre getting by being machmir now?
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Re: Corona virus and your shull
« Reply #739 on: March 30, 2020, 07:31:33 PM »
This is the main point people are not understanding. There is a major difference between shaas hashmad and shaas hamageifa. Thatís why I actually do understand some people in Meah Shearim, they believe itís just a ruse by the Tzionim. But who do you think youíre getting by being machmir now?
I think this is a good point, but it is worded wrong. There is not necessarily a difference between shaas hashmad and shaas hamageifa (unless it has a din of mesiras nefesh in a very literal sense). At both times one should be pious. The difference is that what constitutes piety in he former situation, is not pious in the latter situation. People need to realize that staying home and not making minyanim is avodas Hashem, because of pikuach nefesh, sakana of aiva and ועשיתה ככל אשר יורוך (even if you think you are "smart" enough to know how to bypass the first two concerns)