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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #920 on: April 13, 2020, 01:24:53 PM »
Chevra! Enough with this nonsense! We have had enough of that yesterday, no one should respond and let it vanish.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #921 on: April 13, 2020, 10:13:24 PM »
During Kinus Torah (over Zoom) Rabbi Braun of the Crown Heights Beis Din addressed the issue. He mentioned various arguments made, and said that the Beis Din unanimously decided to forbid all minyanim, indoors and outdoors, without mentioning any reasoning, so that no one could say that the reasoning isn't relevant to him. He did mention several arguments that can be made against making minyanim, but the bottom line is that (sofek) pikuach nefesh trumps everything and is a sufficient reason.

However, he did say that name calling is wrong. He ended by saying that if someone believes that he can make a minyan in a totally safe manner he should know that it is עליו ועל צווארו.
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #922 on: April 13, 2020, 10:15:51 PM »
However, he did say that name calling is wrong. He ended by saying that if someone believes that he can make a minyan in a totally safe manner he should know that it is עליו ועל צווארו.
Don't leave me hanging. It is?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #923 on: April 13, 2020, 10:17:45 PM »
Don't leave me hanging. It is?
I thought you have a thread for that.

Though the pun is appropriate.

עליו ועל צווארו = it is his own risk and responsibility. (Lit. It lies on him and on his neck).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #926 on: April 13, 2020, 11:49:03 PM »
Boro Park shuls are loaded with minyanim. Not all of course but plenty!
I think people are starting to believe that the worst has passed & everyone in BP has been exposed to it by now. My opinion

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #927 on: April 14, 2020, 12:09:36 AM »
Boro Park shuls are loaded with minyanim. Not all of course but plenty!
I think people are starting to believe that the worst has passed & everyone in BP has been exposed to it by now. My opinion
They rely on the attached....no comment
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #928 on: April 14, 2020, 12:10:28 AM »
guys, EVERY point can be made without name calling, degrading, or ניבול פה.
These threads popping up daily bashing everyone that doesn’t follow your Rov, or your way of thought, are just ugly looking for this forum.
Everyone should please consult with there own LR and follow as he’s told.
Please keep your posts clean and remember that דברי חכמים בנחת נשמעים, and hopefully with some extra אהבת חינם we’ll get over this horrible מגיפה fast.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #929 on: April 14, 2020, 12:16:44 AM »
They rely on the attached....no comment
with or without a rav's approval?
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #930 on: April 14, 2020, 12:18:27 AM »
This is powerful but everyone is still going to say “doesn’t apply to ME”.. can’t win
You have it wrong. They say "ich veis besser"
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #931 on: April 14, 2020, 12:18:55 AM »
They rely on the attached....no comment
All you need is a keyboard and a printer...
There's no signature so it's worthless.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #932 on: April 14, 2020, 12:19:55 AM »
guys, EVERY point can be made without name calling, degrading, or ניבול פה.
These threads popping up daily bashing everyone that doesn’t follow your Rov, or your way of thought, are just ugly looking for this forum.
Everyone should please consult with there own LR and follow as he’s told.
Please keep your posts clean and remember that דברי חכמים בנחת נשמעים, and hopefully with some extra אהבת חינם we’ll get over this horrible מגיפה fast.
Read the last paragraph of the Hebrew version on the Lakewood scoop.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #933 on: April 14, 2020, 12:20:22 AM »
All you need is a keyboard and a printer...
There's no signature so it's worthless.
Except for the people who know better anyhow.
Feelings don't care about your facts

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #934 on: April 14, 2020, 12:21:57 AM »
All you need is a keyboard and a printer...
There's no signature so it's worthless.
Did you read it? Its a psak from X years ago related to the only answer to a mageifah. X being I dont know how many years ago R' Chaim Palagi lived or for that matter who that is.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #935 on: April 14, 2020, 12:25:24 AM »
Did you read it? Its a psak from X years ago related to the only answer to a mageifah. X being I dont know how many years ago R' Chaim Palagi lived or for that matter who that is.
Sure, then there's that Gmara etc etc. The question is not about bringing sources but rather from a rav that give a psak for the current situation.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #936 on: April 14, 2020, 12:28:04 AM »

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #937 on: April 14, 2020, 12:32:25 AM »
Are these the leading Rabbonim in Lakewood? Anything from the ראשי ישיבה?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #938 on: April 14, 2020, 12:33:40 AM »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #939 on: April 14, 2020, 12:35:45 AM »
Read the last paragraph of the Hebrew version on the Lakewood scoop.
read
What’s your point?