Author Topic: Corona virus and your shul  (Read 150621 times)

Offline hvaces42

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Nov 2013
  • Posts: 5115
  • Total likes: 894
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1005 on: April 14, 2020, 05:51:52 PM »
Intrestesting, your hanging up a sign with signitures with Lakewood rabonim in what looks like to be NYC.
And your point? Halacha is Halacha.
Fair warning - Any PMs sent in response to forum posts are fair game for ridicule in public.

Online KSMH

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 2625
  • Total likes: 447
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1006 on: April 14, 2020, 06:04:46 PM »
And your point? Halacha is Halacha.
Every one should seek their own halachik guidance from their posek. Even in Lakewood their are some that differ in pesak.

Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.

Why is it so hard for some to live with the fact that others will make decisions in life [even life threatening] that you don't necessarily agree with.

Always praying for delayed baggage.

Offline aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 12132
  • Total likes: 6539
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1007 on: April 14, 2020, 06:06:40 PM »
Every one should seek their own halachik guidance from their posek. Even in Lakewood their are some that differ in pesak.

Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.

Why is it so hard for some to live with the fact that others will make decisions in life [even life threatening] that you don't necessarily agree with.
Most if not all of those in Lakewood have since retracted.
Feelings don't care about your facts

Online EliJelly

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Jan 2019
  • Posts: 1274
  • Total likes: 811
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1008 on: April 14, 2020, 06:06:46 PM »
He can still post on his gate whatever he wishes, definitely easier than sending people away.

Offline israshot

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 1066
  • Total likes: 206
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1009 on: April 14, 2020, 06:06:47 PM »
Every one should seek their own halachik guidance from their posek. Even in Lakewood their are some that differ in pesak.

Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.

Why is it so hard for some to live with the fact that others will make decisions in life [even life threatening] that you don't necessarily agree with.
The guy had ppl in his front yard coming. He can at least have a say on his property...

Offline Chapshnell

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 4802
  • Total likes: 260
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 10
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: BP
  • Programs: Delta Skypesos, AA Shilling, AS Pounds.
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1010 on: April 14, 2020, 06:08:27 PM »
Every one should seek their own halachik guidance from their posek. Even in Lakewood their are some that differ in pesak.

Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.

Why is it so hard for some to live with the fact that others will make decisions in life [even life threatening] that you don't necessarily agree with.

Because when it comes to pekiach nefesh we need to err on the side of caution.
Im not going to change your mind & I am not trying to but we are allowed to scream & yell if peoples recklessness is potentially causing deaths. I dont care what any “meikil” might say. How can he be meikil on my blood?!

Online KSMH

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 2625
  • Total likes: 447
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1011 on: April 14, 2020, 06:08:46 PM »
He can still post on his gate whatever he wishes, definitely easier than sending people away.
100%
The guy had ppl in his front yard coming. He can at least have a say on his property...
It's not his property. In NYC anyone can walk on the sidewalk. That's where the signs are directed.
Always praying for delayed baggage.

Offline yochiek93

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 4512
  • Total likes: 90
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1012 on: April 14, 2020, 06:12:28 PM »
It's not his property. In NYC anyone can walk on the sidewalk. That's where the signs are directed.
people came into his yard which is gated that is definitely his property.

Online KSMH

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 2625
  • Total likes: 447
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1013 on: April 14, 2020, 06:14:34 PM »
Because when it comes to pekiach nefesh we need to err on the side of caution.
Im not going to change your mind & I am not trying to but we are allowed to scream & yell if peoples recklessness is potentially causing deaths. I dont care what any “meikil” might say. How can he be meikil on my blood?!

If your staying home and keeping all social distancing then it's not "my blood". 

Many times in life people make reckless decisions that can impact someone's life, think driving. I, usually dont see people taking it that seriously.
Always praying for delayed baggage.

Offline yochiek93

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 4512
  • Total likes: 90
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1014 on: April 14, 2020, 06:15:52 PM »
If your staying home and keeping all social distancing then it's not "my blood". 

Many times in life people make reckless decisions that can impact someone's life, think driving. I, usually dont see people taking it that seriously.
2 wrongs don't make a right

Online KSMH

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Jul 2018
  • Posts: 2625
  • Total likes: 447
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 13
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1015 on: April 14, 2020, 06:16:28 PM »
people came into his yard which is gated that is definitely his property.
Post a private property sign with a clear warning describing what Gezel is.
Always praying for delayed baggage.

Offline yochiek93

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2015
  • Posts: 4512
  • Total likes: 90
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1016 on: April 14, 2020, 06:18:31 PM »
Post a private property sign with a clear warning describing what Gezel is.
does it really make a difference what the sign says if it will keep people out?

Offline aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 12132
  • Total likes: 6539
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1017 on: April 14, 2020, 06:19:12 PM »
Every one should seek their own halachik guidance from their posek. Even in Lakewood their are some that differ in pesak.

Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.

Why is it so hard for some to live with the fact that others will make decisions in life [even life threatening] that you don't necessarily agree with.
Why is it so hard for people to understand those protesting against them and trying to save lives?
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline aygart

  • Dansdeals Lifetime 10K Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 12132
  • Total likes: 6539
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
    • Lower Watt Energy Brokers
  • Programs: www.lowerwatt.com
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1018 on: April 14, 2020, 06:19:49 PM »
Post a private property sign with a clear warning describing what Gezel is.
Why is he not allowed to protest them risking lives?
Feelings don't care about your facts

Offline israshot

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Nov 2018
  • Posts: 1066
  • Total likes: 206
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 14
    • View Profile
  • Location: NYC
Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1019 on: April 14, 2020, 06:21:24 PM »


It's not his property. In NYC anyone can walk on the sidewalk. That's where the signs are directed.
Read, it's written black on white.
I'm ready to become an anti-semite too. I walk out my front door, I live in middle of the block, and a guy who lives across the avenue on the next block is davening in my front yard with a street minyan!!! They brought out a table for kriyas hatorah. I just cant anymore. I ask him to leave and he starts pacing back and forth on the sidewalk right in front of the house...which I of course dont own or control. Yesterday, one of these idiots was davening under a porch on someone elses property due to the rain, knowing that those people werent home for yom tov. Yes I am ready to go full blown anti semite.