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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1020 on: April 14, 2020, 06:25:51 PM »


Why is it so hard for people to understand those protesting against them and trying to save lives?

Why is he not allowed to protest them risking lives?

He may protest.

I totally understand his point of view, but just picture, videos of protesters you've seen and think to yourself what they have achieved. You can think of Neturei Karta or other extremist, in the eyes of those praying outside you are most likely looked upon in that same way. Remember, many of them either dont seek halachik guidance or do and have received a pesak to do so. Why do you think they will listen to you?

How about finding out who these people are and call them by phone and try having a civil discussion explaining your point of view and see if they will listen.



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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1021 on: April 14, 2020, 06:27:53 PM »
Read, it's written black on white.
I think in general of someone enters your property you have a right to do something about it.

Seek halachik guidance how to handle it, maybe a lock on the gate?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1022 on: April 14, 2020, 06:28:13 PM »

He may protest.

I totally understand his point of view, but just picture, videos of protesters you've seen and think to yourself what they have achieved. You can think of Neturei Karta or other extremist, in the eyes of those praying outside you are most likely looked upon in that same way. Remember, many of them either dont seek halachik guidance or do and have received a pesak to do so. Why do you think they will listen to you?

How about finding out who these people are and call them by phone and try having a civil discussion explaining your point of view and see if they will listen.
I never said it was an effective way of going about it.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1023 on: April 14, 2020, 06:30:51 PM »


I never said it was an effective way of going about it.

So we are on the same page!! GYT.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1024 on: April 14, 2020, 06:31:48 PM »

So we are on the same page!! GYT.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1025 on: April 14, 2020, 06:59:46 PM »

He may protest.

I totally understand his point of view, but just picture, videos of protesters you've seen and think to yourself what they have achieved. You can think of Neturei Karta or other extremist, in the eyes of those praying outside you are most likely looked upon in that same way. Remember, many of them either dont seek halachik guidance or do and have received a pesak to do so. Why do you think they will listen to you?

How about finding out who these people are and call them by phone and try having a civil discussion explaining your point of view and see if they will listen.
I have tried nicely, not so nicely and very not nicely. This is the last resort after this mornings incursions on my property. I am well aware of what I can do legally. To equate my actions to Neturei Karta is laughable...but what you think of me is none of my business anyway.

They are in the main chasidim of a Rebbe who has not davened with a minyan for 4 weeks already...confirmed. The schizophrenia of chasidim disregarding the directives of their own rebbe and trying to be more frum than him is astonishing. If their own rebbe has no sway over them I doubt I will. But at least this psak is now available to them for consideration. If it saves one life or even one person from getting sick it was worth it all.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1028 on: April 14, 2020, 07:15:56 PM »
To show what?
Liquor stores are also open.
adding context and the legal opinion to this discussion. Personal views of safety and gov regulations should not be conflated

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1029 on: April 15, 2020, 05:16:12 PM »
Imagine someone would force you to listen to their rabbi or church leader.
Now there is a radical idea. Have one voice for a religion.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1030 on: April 16, 2020, 11:35:16 PM »
Now there is a radical idea. Have one voice for a religion.
Who gets to decide who that one voice should be? The last time we had that was over 2,000 years ago. The saying "2 Jews 3 opinions" didn't come from nowhere.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1031 on: April 16, 2020, 11:45:06 PM »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1032 on: April 17, 2020, 12:21:49 AM »
Who gets to decide who that one voice should be? The last time we had that was over 2,000 years ago. The saying "2 Jews 3 opinions" didn't come from nowhere.
Eventhen it wasn't one voice
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1033 on: April 17, 2020, 12:29:35 AM »
we had a lot of fun with the porch minyan some joined some didnt but once the prayer was over everyone came out to "Hock" at each other, true simchas YT

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1034 on: April 17, 2020, 12:52:10 AM »
we had a lot of fun with the porch minyan some joined some didnt but once the prayer was over everyone came out to "Hock" at each other, true simchas YT
שמחת יו׳׳ט is a דאורייתא versus תפלה which is a דרבנן, or perhaps it's the דין מנין -getting together- which makes it so contagious ;D

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1035 on: April 17, 2020, 07:51:23 AM »
Who gets to decide who that one voice should be? The last time we had that was over 2,000 years ago. The saying "2 Jews 3 opinions" didn't come from nowhere.
Sarcasm.
Some religions have one voice.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1036 on: April 17, 2020, 10:07:38 AM »
Sarcasm.
Some religions have one voice.
Even as we crossed the Red Sea, there was 12 different tubes in that tunnel for the 12 different tribes.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1038 on: April 17, 2020, 04:03:36 PM »
New letter from the Lakewood Poskim attached
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1039 on: April 17, 2020, 04:09:47 PM »
New letter from the Lakewood Poskim attached
What bad hefseidim happened during the ban that it needed to be revoked?