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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1395 on: April 26, 2020, 12:29:00 AM »
Listen, lower rate of infection argument . Your logic vs the facts.

No minyanim because people can't be trusted.. because there will always be cracks.

Ein Apitropus L'Arayos. This is human nature. The fact that pikuach nefesh trumps minyan is simple.

All you bench sitters with your logic are hepech hatora.

People got sick and died and we're warned first.

Meanwhile I have to look at posts about people crying about how bad the hospitals are. You were warned.

Stay home. Shut up.  Pray from your home.

I asked a fair question and all you have to say is your same rant  that has nothing to do with the question and that you have stated 100 times. If you have nothing smart to say please follow your own advice.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1396 on: April 26, 2020, 12:29:08 AM »
I think he means he gave them out before or threw them to people
I wish
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1397 on: April 26, 2020, 12:30:00 AM »
I wish
How much better would that have been?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1398 on: April 26, 2020, 12:31:14 AM »
Why are people doing this ? My development people were schmoozing with each other after davening
Kids running around aimlessly
When will this stop ??
As you said, apparently we’re now corona free. Or better yet, “we all had it!”
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1399 on: April 26, 2020, 12:31:49 AM »


I know exactly what's at play.. my posts are hardly rants, I consult daily with 20+ doctors and this is fact.

Didn't know you're such an Askan.
Why is the opposite of being locked in your house all day, irresponsibility?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1400 on: April 26, 2020, 12:32:54 AM »
Why are people doing this ? My development people were schmoozing with each other after davening
Kids running around aimlessly
When will this stop ??
My street has  people shmoozing with each other and kids running around aimlessly not after davening. I took a walk this afternoon and there were tons of people out (mostly practicing social distancing at least the adults). People are getting restless especially since today was the first nice day in a few days.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1401 on: April 26, 2020, 12:33:02 AM »
I asked a fair question and all you have to say is your same rant  that has nothing to do with the question and that you have stated 100 times. If you have nothing smart to say please follow your own advice.
+100.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1402 on: April 26, 2020, 12:33:42 AM »
A question on the topic from a different angle.

Some neighborhoods allegedly have minyonim going on in a manner that is not adhering to the medical and legal guidelines (either in shuls with limited participants or on the streets without proper social distancing), some places (like Lakewood by and large) have outdoor minyonim with social distancing and some places (like passaic and five towns) have no minyonim at all.

Are there new people contracting the virus at a higher rate in the places that are being less careful?

Who the hell knows?!?

If anything we have learned is we don't know anything yet, every day, people are dying.

How the hell does anyone know the level of infection ? Read the other boards, we have false negatives, maybe classes of re-infection etc etc

Why does this matter ? Why does it need to make sense to you ?

When I shouted warnings in February I was ignored .

In March I was ignored. And when it came, they said "we didn't see it coming "

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1403 on: April 26, 2020, 12:34:22 AM »
Rav of a Shul who closed right after purim (same time as all the other shuls in the community once they realized the dangers) told me today that he had doctors in his shul calling him very upset that they were closing so for all you people yelling and shouting at the rabbis maybe a little Dan Lekaf Zechus that its not always the rabbis fault..

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1404 on: April 26, 2020, 12:35:28 AM »
A minyan behind my house had a Kiddush today too. He had mini bottles and wrapped cake.
Give an inch and people take a mile :(
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 12:47:30 AM by Dan »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1405 on: April 26, 2020, 12:35:50 AM »
Can anyone on here justify this?
At least he had single serve packages. I would not have been surprised had it been a regular hand to mouth platter.
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1406 on: April 26, 2020, 12:37:00 AM »
Give an inch and people take a mile :(
This group was like this straight through.
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 12:47:38 AM by Dan »
The thing with the hamster is that running on the wheel is actually what it is trying to do.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1407 on: April 26, 2020, 12:37:39 AM »

Didn't know you're such an Askan.
Why is the opposite of being locked in your house all day, irresponsibility?

I'm a nobody, at least I don't play games with people's lives.

As a triple board certified internist and pulmonologist expert told me last week "no one knows, Even I know enough to say that I don't know"

I'm sorry you feel cooped up. No one said you can't go out. Keep to 6 feet away from others who do not live with you.

Obviously this is a problem If I going out these rules can't be kept because people get too close.. again that's where the mishna always warns of being especially cautious

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1408 on: April 26, 2020, 12:38:36 AM »
Who the hell knows?!?

If anything we have learned is we don't know anything yet, every day, people are dying.

How the hell does anyone know the level of infection ? Read the other boards, we have false negatives, maybe classes of re-infection etc etc

Why does this matter ? Why does it need to make sense to you ?

When I shouted warnings in February I was ignored .

In March I was ignored. And when it came, they said "we didn't see it coming "
At this point everyone understands the severity and of the situation and has their own ways of dealing with it. Why on God's earth do you feel that you and what you've been told is the ultimate arbitrator?
I know places  in tri state first  hand that still  have shuls open and don't have a single death or people in the hospital.  Fact of the matter is everyone needs to stay safe.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1409 on: April 26, 2020, 12:38:41 AM »
Can someone justify what is going on in NJ ?
How can they have semi social distancing.
Are we only careful when we go to a grocery store but not by davening outside.
BMG said that chazan was supposed to stop if someone is not following their guidelines with the outside minyan. But did that happen today ? NO

Are they waiting for more people to die ??
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