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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1420 on: April 26, 2020, 12:50:08 AM »
So seriously in fact that at least 3 70+ year olds were at the minyan this shabbos on my block. The reason: They are grandparents or great granparents of a baby girl that was named at the minyan. Very very very important reason that should not be discounted. Thats besides the pther guest that decided they needed to join the minyan and came to daven here on the street. Strolling back and forth is a requirement in a certain chasidus apparently.

 Also trespassing on a front walk and standing at someones door who isnt home for weeks is also allowed. The guy even had the chutzpah to hang his siddur in a bag on the door all shabbos so he didnt have to carry in the eruv because he doesnt really hold of that.

Thats my update for now.
The sidur and bag part I can easily digest.. But 3 70+ people left the safety of their home for a kiddish is moronic indeed.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1421 on: April 26, 2020, 12:50:24 AM »
Time to change your name to NJ.

Like 50% of NJ, he commutes.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1422 on: April 26, 2020, 12:51:29 AM »
We had a beautiful new porch minyan today with all guidelines adhered to. The weather was beautiful. The song choices for Hallel was awful.
HaShem!!! I need my shul back!!!

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1423 on: April 26, 2020, 12:52:12 AM »
Time to change your name to NJ.
No, it's all political, the chief rabbi of NY is bashing NJ.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1424 on: April 26, 2020, 12:52:23 AM »
Most of klal yisroel closed their Shuls appx a week after purim. Contrary to what some here like to think most of the people making these decisions are responsible ehrliche people that were following the advice of most doctors and of the government that didn't feel at that point closing shuls was necessary.

In hindsight should things have been closed earlier? Yes. Does that mean that what most of klal yisroel did was wrong at the time based on the circumstances at time? No.
That one line is exactly whats wrong here. Who the heck are you at any point to say that I "didnt feel at that point closing shuls was necessary"? Were those COVIDIOTS epidemiologists? No they were misguided "erliche"  drumak dummies.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1425 on: April 26, 2020, 12:52:31 AM »
We had a beautiful new porch minyan today with all guidelines adhered to. The weather was beautiful. The song choices for Hallel was awful.
HaShem!!! I need my shul back!!!
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1426 on: April 26, 2020, 12:52:59 AM »
They are grandparents or great granparents of a baby girl that was named at the minyan. Very very very important reason that should not be discounted.

This kind of stupid hurts me. Especially since I couldn't be at my own daughter's naming. G-d must love them extra.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1427 on: April 26, 2020, 12:53:19 AM »
That one line is exactly whats wrong here. Who the heck are you at any point to say that I "didnt feel at that point closing shuls was necessary"? Were those COVIDIOTS epidemiologists? No they were misguided "erliche"  drumak dummies.
The govt was saying that
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1428 on: April 26, 2020, 12:53:31 AM »
We visit our parents and hang out in the backyard 6 feet away.

Bh we have all been healthy and overall cautious. There's a sink in the back and everyone washes their hands with soap when they come and maintain distance from my parents etc.

Still I worry yes, my nephew asked me to read him a book and I said sorry I can't read it from here I need binoculars, so my brother threw me a pair ;)

There's just 2 married siblings, small families and it's only one family at once. It's a very big backyard in Miami.

The concern with minyan is that once you have it, they spiral out of control. It's the very nature of it, it's also I am seeing so many people argue that oh it's not so bad that all they're doing this year that oh you know I see this happening and nobody got sick so what's the problem

And that's what scares me That's exactly the logic that they used in the beginning

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1429 on: April 26, 2020, 12:56:08 AM »
Can someone justify what is going on in NJ ?
How can they have semi social distancing.
Are we only careful when we go to a grocery store but not by davening outside.
BMG said that chazan was supposed to stop if someone is not following their guidelines with the outside minyan. But did that happen today ? NO

Are they waiting for more people to die ??

What are you talking about????

Maybe before you rant please first describe what you are ranting about?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1430 on: April 26, 2020, 12:56:33 AM »
Who would've thought you wouldn't have the answer to every scenario? If you can't see a difference between 1944 and now then.....

Chaim walder said it in an interview. In ww2 they told them to flee, people didn't listen.

Now we are just asking you to stay home.

But I am glad that you yaakov35 have all the answers.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1431 on: April 26, 2020, 12:56:55 AM »
The sidur and bag part I can easily digest.. But 3 70+ people left the safety of their home for a kiddish is moronic indeed.
Poor guy who is older and immuno-compromised comes home from sheltering in place in Arizona with his kids for the last 8 weeks and gets Coronavirus from touching his door handle because someone decided to daven at his front door. Which part of that can you digest exactly?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1432 on: April 26, 2020, 12:58:54 AM »
Poor guy who is older and immuno-compromised comes home from sheltering in place in Arizona with his kids for the last 8 weeks and gets Coronavirus from touching his door handle because someone decided to daven at his front door. Which part of that can you digest exactly?
I’m sure the bag contained lemon scented Clorox wipes...

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1433 on: April 26, 2020, 12:59:12 AM »
Poor guy who is older and immuno-compromised comes home from sheltering in place in Arizona with his kids for the last 8 weeks and gets Coronavirus from touching his door handle because someone decided to daven at his front door. Which part of that can you digest exactly?
Oh it's all contamination related, thought it's the use of someone else's property.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1434 on: April 26, 2020, 12:59:34 AM »
This kind of stupid hurts me. Especially since I couldn't be at my own daughter's naming. G-d must love them extra.
Must be.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1435 on: April 26, 2020, 01:00:06 AM »
We visit our parents and hang out in the backyard 6 feet away.

Bh we have all been healthy and overall cautious. There's a sink in the back and everyone washes their hands with soap when they come and maintain distance from my parents etc.

Still I worry yes, my nephew asked me to read him a book and I said sorry I can't read it from here I need binoculars, so my brother threw me a pair ;)

There's just 2 married siblings, small families and it's only one family at once. It's a very big backyard in Miami.

The concern with minyan is that once you have it, they spiral out of control. It's the very nature of it, it's also I am seeing so many people argue that oh it's not so bad that all they're doing this year that oh you know I see this happening and nobody got sick so what's the problem

And that's what scares me That's exactly the logic that they used in the beginning

Hmm so visiting your parents (whom I would assume are older) with social distancing is OK but if someone davens on his porch with a minyan with social distancing he is a murderer.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1436 on: April 26, 2020, 01:00:48 AM »
Oh it's all contamination related, thought it's the use of someone else's property.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1438 on: April 26, 2020, 01:03:08 AM »
Poor guy who is older and immuno-compromised comes home from sheltering in place in Arizona with his kids for the last 8 weeks and gets Coronavirus from touching his door handle because someone decided to daven at his front door. Which part of that can you digest exactly?
I assume he is not coming home on shabbos so by the time he gets back the germs will be gone. (i'm not justifying using someones property without permision just pointing out you are going a bit over the top).

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1439 on: April 26, 2020, 01:03:43 AM »
Hmm so visiting your parents (whom I would assume are older) with social distancing is OK but if someone davens on his porch with a minyan with social distancing he is a murderer.
Its ok because he speaks to 20 dr's a day, but were all dumb stupid and irresponsible. I see your catching on