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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1460 on: April 26, 2020, 02:26:16 AM »
If you’re so curious why don’t you just ask them directly?? You expect to get their answer here?
It was obviously rhetorical.

But yes I know the answer - people are getting restless and they are letting their guard down because "we all had it". (Had a couple people from my development tell me this.)

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1461 on: April 26, 2020, 02:27:38 AM »
It was obviously rhetorical.

But yes I know the answer - people are getting restless and they are letting their guard down because "we all had it". (Had a couple people from my development tell me this.)
Still and all they are clearly violating the psak from the poskim. Oh right that psak doesn’t matter because it’s only the Hatzolah people lying to them and making them crazy
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1462 on: April 26, 2020, 02:29:30 AM »
Still and all they are clearly violating the psak from the poskim. Oh right that psak doesn’t matter because it’s only the Hatzolah people lying to them and making them crazy

And like @Dan said - "give an inch, and a yungerman will be able to tell you that a mile is really just 63,360 individual inches so it's okay."

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1463 on: April 26, 2020, 02:29:41 AM »
Israel will be opening schools possibly as soon as this Sunday. That would be 15 kids max per grade learning together/playing together etc....Playing in a development is probably a lot less kids.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1464 on: April 26, 2020, 02:40:23 AM »
Israel will be opening schools possibly as soon as this Sunday. That would be 15 kids max per grade learning together/playing together etc....Playing in a development is probably a lot less kids.
First, who said Israel is doing the right thing? Because the secular government decided what’s what?
Second, the psak was for people in LAKEWOOD. And that’s where they were violating the psak.
Third, I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but Lakewood and Israel weren’t exactly infected at the same rate..
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1465 on: April 26, 2020, 02:43:56 AM »
First, who said Israel is doing the right thing? Because the secular government decided what’s what?
Second, the psak was for people in LAKEWOOD. And that’s where they were violating the psak.
Third, I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but Lakewood and Israel weren’t exactly infected at the same rate..
Btw, do you think the bmg rabbanim have jurisdiction on everyone residing in Lakewood? Think all the people who moved to Lakewood from nyc in the last few years....
So my point is that it might not be a “universal” “Lakewood” psak

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1466 on: April 26, 2020, 02:48:10 AM »
First, who said Israel is doing the right thing? Because the secular government decided what’s what?
Second, the psak was for people in LAKEWOOD. And that’s where they were violating the psak.
Third, I’m not sure if you’ve noticed, but Lakewood and Israel weren’t exactly infected at the same rate..

Is the virus different? Do we have 2 different strains? Is that what you are implying?


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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1467 on: April 26, 2020, 02:59:43 AM »
Is the virus different? Do we have 2 different strains? Is that what you are implying?
I’m implying Israel had a better handle early on, so they are now in a different situation as far as infection prevalence.

There is also the matter of the weather, and that the mortality rate does overall seem to be much lower there. That might be a testing thing tho.
Btw, do you think the bmg rabbanim have jurisdiction on everyone residing in Lakewood? Think all the people who moved to Lakewood from nyc in the last few years....
So my point is that it might not be a “universal” “Lakewood” psak
I don’t know. 4 of the most preeminent poskim in Lakewood, along with a Rosh Yeshiva and doctors, very clearly assur’d certain actions. Maybe someone has a posek who said otherwise in Lakewood, but it was implied in OPs post that they were seemingly trying to conduct a “porch minyan” just with flagrant violations.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1468 on: April 26, 2020, 04:20:22 AM »
Just out of curiosity why is everyone so busy with minyanim of 15 people who may or may not be social distancing. When their are backyard weddings every single day with over 50 people and nobody social distancing. Don't see anybody complaining here. Only minyanim are a problem.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1469 on: April 26, 2020, 04:24:37 AM »
Just out of curiosity why is everyone so busy with minyanim of 15 people who may or may not be social distancing. When their are backyard weddings every single day with over 50 people and nobody social distancing. Don't see anybody complaining here. Only minyanim are a problem.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1470 on: April 26, 2020, 05:46:28 AM »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1471 on: April 26, 2020, 05:48:20 AM »
Just out of curiosity why is everyone so busy with minyanim of 15 people who may or may not be social distancing. When their are backyard weddings every single day with over 50 people and nobody social distancing. Don't see anybody complaining here. Only minyanim are a problem.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1472 on: April 26, 2020, 06:23:54 AM »
How about a simple Kal v'chomer? Of course we oppose weddings bigger than the bare minimum

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1473 on: April 26, 2020, 07:19:59 AM »


My parents are fairly young and healthy.  My mother is keh 60. My father doesn't hang out in the backyard..

The concern is my grandmother who lives with them. Yeah I'm concerned.
60 isn't young for this virus unfortunately. I'm not telling you what to do or don't, but that statement is not true. (My father is only 53 and had the virus for 4 weeks +hospitalization (BH he recovered)).
I know what is it like when they don't listen to recommendation, but please don't say there's no concern for your parents.


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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1474 on: April 26, 2020, 10:32:23 AM »
Btw, do you think the bmg rabbanim have jurisdiction on everyone residing in Lakewood? Think all the people who moved to Lakewood from nyc in the last few years....
So my point is that it might not be a “universal” “Lakewood” psak
WHo IS thier Rov. Very few do not have a rov who is himself a talmid of one of the BMG rabbonim and would give over the same thing that they say to his own kehilla.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1475 on: April 26, 2020, 10:33:40 AM »
their are backyard weddings every single day with over 50 people and nobody social distancing.
Source?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1476 on: April 26, 2020, 10:36:08 AM »
. (My father is only 53 and had the virus for 4 weeks +hospitalization (BH he recovered)).
BH!
Any lingering symptoms?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1477 on: April 26, 2020, 10:40:54 AM »
BH!
Any lingering symptoms?
Not anymore. When he went to the hospital he didn't have any fever or other usual symptoms that he had for the first 3 weeks, but he was missing oxygen.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1478 on: April 26, 2020, 10:55:23 AM »
Not anymore. When he went to the hospital he didn't have any fever or other usual symptoms that he had for the first 3 weeks, but he was missing oxygen.
Glad he is recovered. Did they test him?
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1479 on: April 26, 2020, 11:01:10 AM »
Ah! The timeless halachic strategy of arguing logically...
"But Mo-o-o-mmyyyy..... He's doing it, toooo!" GTHOOH
you obviously only read half of OPs post