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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1760 on: May 12, 2020, 01:48:16 PM »
Great article, but we need to know how wearing a mask affect the equation.

Correct, it's also why stores should have limited to no talking. Most stores here require face masks.

And you should get out ASAP.

One thing I want to address, I'll ask around, but viral load.

Say someone comes in contact with someone with Corona but their body fights it off. They may incorrectly assume they got it and have immunity.

They may get it later and spread it?

It's one reason the anti body testing isn't definitive.


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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1761 on: May 12, 2020, 02:41:56 PM »
Say someone comes in contact with someone with Corona but their body fights it off. They may incorrectly assume they got it and have immunity.
How does their body fight it off exactly?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1762 on: May 12, 2020, 02:43:42 PM »
How does their body fight it off exactly?
If there is a very low viral dose maybe their immune system doesn’t need to build new antibodies to fight it?  I don’t know the science so don’t quote me
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1763 on: May 12, 2020, 02:47:44 PM »
If there is a very low viral dose maybe their immune system doesn’t need to build new antibodies to fight it?  I don’t know the science so don’t quote me
What does your immune system do?
 
Your immune system works to root out germs and other invaders that have no business in your body.
For example, if you inhale a cold virus through your nose, your immune system targets that virus and primes you to recover. It takes time to get over an infection, and sometimes you need medicine to help, but the immune system is the cornerstone of recovery.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1764 on: May 12, 2020, 06:08:10 PM »
Anyone’s shul open/ing?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1766 on: May 12, 2020, 07:08:07 PM »
https://matzav.com/young-israel-of-deerfield-beach-expresses-disgust-over-rogue-minyan/
hooo-haaa..! Pretty tough ramifications. Any chances this can be implemented in BP?? ;D

Was the minyen being held on the shul's property?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1767 on: May 12, 2020, 07:20:29 PM »
My first reaction is that it’s ridiculous and that these minyan extremists need to take a chill. If they participated in a private minyan on private property that’s between them and their maker. Do you throw someone out of your shul if he goes on an inappropriate cruise or visits an inappropriate venue that is assur according to the Agudah, RCA, and every orthodox faction? I’ll bet Not.

Last I was in Miami/Boca there were people swimming in non tznius attire in pools that were publicly visible ON SHABBOS and no one said boo about giving them an Aliyah. I get that some people aren’t going to listen and a מחאה is often counterproductive; but it’s pretty glaring to pick and choose your issues that give you “complete disgust and revulsion”.

And Rabbi Glatt is not the only opinion on this matter neither is the Agudah the sole hashkafic opinion at this time. OTOH it’s their shul ( assuming this is the unanimous opinion of the shul members and not a few extremist pushing their agenda) and if you don’t subscribe to their form of religion maybe it is fair for them to tell you to find someplace else to pray.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1768 on: May 12, 2020, 07:30:42 PM »
I have no clue what the situation on the ground is in this particular locale, however I'd imagine that in all likelihood they're shooting themselves in the foot because these folks are almost guaranteed to start a break-away shul. And I'd also imagine, that unlike Brooklyn, where break-away shuls probably open "every Monday and Thursday, this is likely an area where every new shul has a much stronger impact...

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1769 on: May 12, 2020, 07:35:48 PM »
This is taking it to some extreme, I'm sure it will have some backfire, I can bet that there's no unanimous assent for this, many will rethink their affiliation indeed.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1770 on: May 12, 2020, 07:36:21 PM »
My first reaction is that it’s ridiculous and that these minyan extremists need to take a chill. If they participated in a private minyan on private property that’s between them and their maker. Do you throw someone out of your shul if he goes on an inappropriate cruise or visits an inappropriate venue that is assur according to the Agudah, RCA, and every orthodox faction? I’ll bet Not.

Last I was in Miami there were people swimming in non tznius attire in pools that were publicly visible ON SHABBOS and no one said boo about giving them an Aliyah.

And Rabbi Glatt is not the only opinion on this matter neither is the Agudah the sole hashkafic opinion at this time. OTOH it’s their shul ( assuming this is the unanimous opinion of the shul members and not a few extremist pushing their agenda) and if you don’t subscribe to their form of religion maybe it is fair for them to tell you to find someplace else to pray.

What does tznius have to do with this? You don’t catch and spread diseases by not being tznius (unless maybe a cold ;)).   

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1771 on: May 12, 2020, 07:37:44 PM »
This is taking it to some extreme, I'm sure it will have some backfire, I can bet that there's no unanimous assent for this, many will rethink their affiliation indeed.

This is a YI not a shteeble no one will rethink their affiliation. They will probably gain member from this.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1772 on: May 12, 2020, 07:39:23 PM »
What does tznius have to do with this? You don’t catch and spread diseases by not being tznius (unless maybe a cold ;)).   
Ever heard of ''פרצה קוראה לגנב"? When things go unchecked it tends to spread to others. Part of a Rav's obligation too.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1773 on: May 12, 2020, 07:39:34 PM »
What does tznius have to do with this? You don’t catch and spread diseases by not being tznius (unless maybe a cold ;)).   

When you are hanging your hat on the Agudah RCA and Rabbinic authorities and not just sound medical doctrine  you are in religious righteous indignation territory at which point tznius comes into play.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1774 on: May 12, 2020, 07:41:04 PM »
This is the largest Young Israel in the country. Century Village is a huge senior development with many snowbirds. There is no break away minyan yet, afaik.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1775 on: May 12, 2020, 07:42:10 PM »
When you are hanging your hat on the Agudah RCA and Rabbinic authorities and not just sound medical doctrine  you are in religious righteous indignation territory at which point tznius comes into play.

Oy why do I find stupidity on all the threads.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1776 on: May 12, 2020, 07:42:51 PM »
Ever heard of ''פרצה קוראה לגנב"? When things go unchecked it tends to spread to others. Part of a Rav's obligation too.

Oy why do I find stupidity on all the threads.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1777 on: May 12, 2020, 07:46:26 PM »
Oy why do I find stupidity on all the threads.
When disagreement = stupidity you'll find it everywhere. Change your attitude in life boy

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1778 on: May 12, 2020, 07:47:54 PM »
When disagreement = stupidity you'll find it everywhere. Change your attitude in life boy
Please stay respectful. I'm pretty sure he's much older than you.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #1779 on: May 12, 2020, 07:49:46 PM »
Please stay respectful. I'm pretty sure he's much older than you.
Very respectful, calling multiple others "stupidity" isn't.