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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2080 on: May 17, 2020, 11:16:52 PM »
Shuls closed before the government required it. The attitude changed significantly in the 3 days from when schools closed until shuls closed.
Which was too late.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2081 on: May 18, 2020, 08:14:12 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2082 on: May 18, 2020, 08:17:03 PM »

Another great pic from the beach in Belmar this weekend of the crowd lining up for over three hours elbow to elbow to buy beach badges. Murphy was asked about the crowd in Belmar and he said he thought it was safe. Think we can do outdoor minyanim for 3 hours on shabbos with that kind of crowd without NJSP dishing out summonses? Right.

Here’s an idea. How about if Lakewood sets up a “beach” all along the shores of Lake Carasaljo Shavuos night? (They can close off South Lake Drive for more room.)Thousands of “beachgoers”  can set up shtenders and seforim and have a massive maamad kabolas hatorah! Just need the weather to cooperate and a lot of light towers from Chaveirim. Then the thousands of beachgoers can daven in their places come Alos, with perhaps a birchas kohanim that would rival the Kosel....

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2083 on: May 18, 2020, 08:22:46 PM »

Another great pic from the beach in Belmar this weekend of the crowd lining up for over three hours elbow to elbow to buy beach badges. Murphy was asked about the crowd in Belmar and he said he thought it was safe. Think we can do outdoor minyanim for 3 hours on shabbos with that kind of crowd without NJSP dishing out summonses? Right.

Here’s an idea. How about if Lakewood sets up a “beach” all along the shores of Lake Carasaljo Shavuos night? (They can close off South Lake Drive for more room.)Thousands of “beachgoers”  can set up shtenders and seforim and have a massive maamad kabolas hatorah! Just need the weather to cooperate and a lot of light towers from Chaveirim. Then the thousands of beachgoers can daven in their places come Alos, with perhaps a birchas kohanim that would rival the Kosel....

I agree with the concept, but passing exposure is nothing close to prolonged exposure. You can easily be more exposed to someone in shul/bais medrash much more than a family member over an entire week.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2084 on: May 18, 2020, 08:35:09 PM »
I agree with the concept, but passing exposure is nothing close to prolonged exposure. You can easily be more exposed to someone in shul/bais medrash much more than a family member over an entire week.

People were reporting a 3 hour wait on line which was slowly crawling along. That’s a lot more than passing exposure. I agree that that doesn’t compare to indoors but outdoor large minyanim should be equally acceptable to the powers that be.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2085 on: May 18, 2020, 08:47:06 PM »

Another great pic from the beach in Belmar this weekend of the crowd lining up for over three hours elbow to elbow to buy beach badges. Murphy was asked about the crowd in Belmar and he said he thought it was safe. Think we can do outdoor minyanim for 3 hours on shabbos with that kind of crowd without NJSP dishing out summonses? Right.

Here’s an idea. How about if Lakewood sets up a “beach” all along the shores of Lake Carasaljo Shavuos night? (They can close off South Lake Drive for more room.)Thousands of “beachgoers”  can set up shtenders and seforim and have a massive maamad kabolas hatorah! Just need the weather to cooperate and a lot of light towers from Chaveirim. Then the thousands of beachgoers can daven in their places come Alos, with perhaps a birchas kohanim that would rival the Kosel....

We need someone to donate the coffee and a whole lot of Porta johns! I think I know a guy who can be chazzan. He will have no problem being heard across the length and breadth of the lake!

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2086 on: May 19, 2020, 12:22:20 AM »

Here’s an idea. How about if Lakewood sets up a “beach” all along the shores of Lake Carasaljo Shavuos night? (They can close off South Lake Drive for more room.)Thousands of “beachgoers”  can set up shtenders and seforim and have a massive maamad kabolas hatorah! Just need the weather to cooperate and a lot of light towers from Chaveirim. Then the thousands of beachgoers can daven in their places come Alos, with perhaps a birchas kohanim that would rival the Kosel....

Reserving the amphitheater by North Lake for my chaburah :)

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2089 on: May 19, 2020, 11:29:32 AM »
Transcript? Cliff notes?

Didn't listen to the whole thing, but pretty much doctors and politicians are liars, shuls should never have closed, corona only killed people because and after shuls closed, and any posek who closed shuls doesn't know shulchan aruch. Oh, and the only member of Agudah who has any backbone is R' Malkiel, who allegedly didn't read any of the Agudah's statements because it wasn't Sunday and he was in yeshiva.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2090 on: May 19, 2020, 11:31:38 AM »
Didn't listen to the whole thing, but pretty much doctors and politicians are liars, shuls should never have closed, corona only killed people because and after shuls closed, and any posek who closed shuls doesn't know shulchan aruch. Oh, and the only member of Agudah who has any backbone is R' Malkiel, who allegedly didn't read any of the Agudah's statements because it wasn't Sunday and he was in yeshiva.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2092 on: May 19, 2020, 11:48:48 AM »
The part about Stop the Spread (talking during davening). :o

ETA: Unfortunately, far from the only "say what now?" moment in this clip.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2093 on: May 19, 2020, 11:57:00 AM »
Removed.

And for many very good reasons.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2094 on: May 19, 2020, 02:06:25 PM »
CH wants to have 'official' outside minyonim.
https://anash.org/minyonim-around-crown-heights/

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2095 on: May 19, 2020, 02:16:50 PM »
Didn't listen to the whole thing, but pretty much doctors and politicians are liars, shuls should never have closed, corona only killed people because and after shuls closed, and any posek who closed shuls doesn't know shulchan aruch. Oh, and the only member of Agudah who has any backbone is R' Malkiel, who allegedly didn't read any of the Agudah's statements because it wasn't Sunday and he was in yeshiva.

You actually listened? Looked to me like it was an hour long.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2096 on: May 19, 2020, 02:34:49 PM »
Transcript? Cliff notes?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2097 on: May 19, 2020, 03:01:43 PM »
The part about Stop the Spread (talking during davening). :o

ETA: Unfortunately, far from the only "say what now?" moment in this clip.

I didn't hear the whole thing, but this part got me, (paraphrased) "I'm going to speak the truth no matter what they say or do to me. I don't care if they kill me, yes, they might kill me, I'm still going to speak the truth." The "they" in question? Community pediatricians.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2098 on: May 19, 2020, 03:17:51 PM »
CH wants to have 'official' outside minyonim.
https://anash.org/minyonim-around-crown-heights/

העיקר חסר מן הספר:

770 has been having outside minyan at regular year-round times.

Also plenty of other minyanim not mentioned. At this point it almost every block (some blocks more than one minyan).
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2099 on: May 19, 2020, 04:08:57 PM »
Shuls closed before the government required it. The attitude changed significantly in the 3 days from when schools closed until shuls closed.

They closed 1-2 weeks too late