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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2160 on: May 21, 2020, 06:06:11 PM »
It would be easier to understand it that way if the rest of it wasn't so......

Hey, we're approaching ר"ח סיון - כאיש אחד בלב אחד. Let's see the positive in everyone, to the extent we can.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2161 on: May 21, 2020, 06:23:07 PM »
Hey, we're approaching ר"ח סיון - כאיש אחד בלב אחד. Let's see the positive in everyone, to the extent we can.
Well, it seems he was very much affected by the situation..... I'm Dan lkaf zchus...

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2162 on: May 21, 2020, 06:27:14 PM »
Hey, we're approaching ר"ח סיון - כאיש אחד בלב אחד. Let's see the positive in everyone, to the extent we can.
How does that work exactly in the context of a speech that was ripping into much of klal yisroel?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2163 on: May 21, 2020, 06:31:26 PM »
How does that work exactly in the context of a speech that was ripping into much of klal yisroel?

Let's focus on the positive that we can take out of it, for example:

Obviously this shouldn't be taken literally. But what I think he means is the focus on the סור מרע where the "רע" is constantly mentioned rather than focusing on the עשה טוב, having a meaningful davening, feeling connected to Hashem, respecting shul because its Hashems house, yet feel at home there.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2164 on: May 22, 2020, 10:09:40 AM »
What are your Shuls doing for Shabbos? We had space for four minyanim, which all got filled this morning. We have a waiting list of 20 more.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2165 on: May 22, 2020, 10:48:13 AM »
Last night I went to 770 (outdoors) to daven Ma'ariv for the first time since it was locked down.

Boy, was it refreshing compared to my back porch minyan.

I arrived just in time and stood where I thought I was sufficiently distant from others, just to have a bochur wearing a face mask (who seems to be in charge of enforcing rules) ask me to move away from where I stood, as it was in the middle of the sidewalk, potentially blocking pedestrian traffic. I relocated to the service lane, only to be told that I can't stand there either, because of oncoming vehicular traffic.

Davening was a breath of fresh air. No more at the mercy of a rushing שליח ציבור that can barely be heard, but rather davening במתינות with a loud clear שליח ציבור. Instead of davening with 10-20 people on a block minyan, I was davening in a minyan that probably had close to 100 people. Most were not wearing masks, though some did.

I would have loved to daven with the 770 outdoor minyan on Shabbos, but I would imagine it is much more limited, as there's only a limited area where one could carry a siddur to.

I really look forward to the reopening of 770.

If only we had proactive people in charge, I'm sure something could be worked out to have 770 open.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 10:53:07 AM by ExGingi »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2166 on: May 22, 2020, 10:50:32 AM »
What are your Shuls doing for Shabbos? We had space for four minyanim, which all got filled this morning. We have a waiting list of 20 more.

Two minyanim for each tefillah with room for more. Many people are still staying away because barely anyone here has gotten sick yet.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2167 on: May 22, 2020, 12:49:57 PM »
Last night I went to 770 (outdoors) to daven Ma'ariv for the first time since it was locked down.

Boy, was it refreshing compared to my back porch minyan.

I arrived just in time and stood where I thought I was sufficiently distant from others, just to have a bochur wearing a face mask (who seems to be in charge of enforcing rules) ask me to move away from where I stood, as it was in the middle of the sidewalk, potentially blocking pedestrian traffic. I relocated to the service lane, only to be told that I can't stand there either, because of oncoming vehicular traffic.

Davening was a breath of fresh air. No more at the mercy of a rushing שליח ציבור that can barely be heard, but rather davening במתינות with a loud clear שליח ציבור. Instead of davening with 10-20 people on a block minyan, I was davening in a minyan that probably had close to 100 people. Most were not wearing masks, though some did.

I would have loved to daven with the 770 outdoor minyan on Shabbos, but I would imagine it is much more limited, as there's only a limited area where one could carry a siddur to.

I really look forward to the reopening of 770.

If only we had proactive people in charge, I'm sure something could be worked out to have 770 open.
I've recently switched from my backyard minyan to davening in shul for shachreisim. Interestingly I have an opposite experience. Outdoors we had a loud clear שליח ציבור, and davening was calmer and slower than now in shul. I guess davening outdoors is more relaxing.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2168 on: May 22, 2020, 12:51:59 PM »
I've recently switched from my backyard minyan to davening in shul for shachreisim. Interestingly I have an opposite experience. Outdoors we had a loud clear שליח ציבור, and davening was calmer and slower than now in shul. I guess davening outdoors is more relaxing.

I guess it highly depends on who ends up being the שליח ציבור more than the location.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2169 on: May 22, 2020, 12:54:51 PM »
I guess it highly depends on who ends up being the שליח ציבור more than the location.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2170 on: May 22, 2020, 12:56:14 PM »
I guess it highly depends on who ends up being the שליח ציבור more than the location.
We had a chiyuv and his voice thundered down the entire block. I actually hope we can keep it for mincha-mariv as long as possible :)

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2171 on: May 22, 2020, 12:58:00 PM »
We had a chiyuv and his voice thundered down the entire block. I actually hope we can keep it for mincha-mariv as long as possible :)

Oh. The few times that I did it in our back minyan you can be sure I was heard. But I suffer from the famous Lubavitch disease of not wanting to go to the Omud.
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2172 on: May 22, 2020, 01:00:15 PM »
Oh. The few times that I did it in our back minyan you can be sure I was heard. But I suffer from the famous Lubavitch disease of not wanting to go to the Omud.
Almost universal disease

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2173 on: May 22, 2020, 01:45:10 PM »
Almost universal disease

Except for Bar Mitzvah kids. Maybe it's somewhat related to Corona - both diseases don't affect young kids.  ;D
« Last Edit: May 22, 2020, 04:00:36 PM by ExGingi »
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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2174 on: May 22, 2020, 02:11:03 PM »
Wow!
Trump is calling houses of worship as essential!

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2175 on: May 22, 2020, 02:13:04 PM »
WASHINGTON: BREAKING: President Trump says he declared houses of worship essential, he will overrule state governors that do not allow them to open right now.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2176 on: May 22, 2020, 02:15:49 PM »
WASHINGTON: BREAKING: President Trump says he declared houses of worship essential, he will overrule state governors that do not allow them to open right now.
does he have a legal right to do this?
what are the practical ramifacations?

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2177 on: May 22, 2020, 02:21:07 PM »


does he have a legal right to do this?
what are the practical ramifacations?

Yes.
Any house of worship can legally be open.... lots of places wanted to open but couldn't legally... now they can.

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2178 on: May 22, 2020, 02:22:49 PM »
Imagine any democrat doing that....

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Re: Corona virus and your shul
« Reply #2179 on: May 22, 2020, 02:24:01 PM »

Yes.
Any house of worship can legally be open.... lots of places wanted to open but couldn't legally... now they can.

Source? No states' rights?
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