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What grade do you give Trump so far for his handling of COVID-19?

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32 (20.4%)
B
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #120 on: March 13, 2020, 12:32:59 AM »
I guess you didn't visit New Rochelle?
No I didn’t. But as for the rest of the state he, like most others, seem to be waiting till the last possible minute to take real action.

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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #121 on: March 13, 2020, 12:34:31 AM »
I understand what you are saying but I believe the CDC don't want people to get a false sense of security.

So then tell people the truth. Wear the mask because no one has any clue they are infected until they show symptoms 5 days later on average. It's working in China. It's also not a false sense of security, it's a fact that less people would be infected if everyone was wearing masks. They also need to get rid of the stigma of wearing a mask, I wore a mask when visiting the hospital and the staff thought I had corona.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #122 on: March 13, 2020, 12:37:38 AM »
They also need to get rid of the stigma of wearing a mask, I wore a mask when visiting the hospital and the staff thought I had corona.
Funny you mentioned that. We all had to wear masks when my brother was in the hospital. That is when I found out the real purpose for surgical masks.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #123 on: March 13, 2020, 12:38:00 AM »
Is there anywhere one can find info where infected people visited? Is there a single other country that isn't making this info available?
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #124 on: March 13, 2020, 12:39:45 AM »
Funny you mentioned that. We all had to wear masks when my brother was in the hospital. That is when I found out the real purpose for surgical masks.
Which is....?

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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #125 on: March 13, 2020, 12:40:19 AM »
The title of this thread is driving me insane!!!!

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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #126 on: March 13, 2020, 12:40:54 AM »
Which is....?
They are to protect the patient not the healthy person wearing it.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #127 on: March 13, 2020, 12:41:56 AM »
The title of this thread is driving me insane!!!!
Just pay attention to the poll and not title of thread that someone slipped a "e" into.  :P
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handling of COVID-19?
« Reply #128 on: March 13, 2020, 01:17:37 AM »
As a New Yorker I don’t feel he’s been very effective. Walking the streets of NY, other than a run on supermarkets, you’d never know there’s a virus going around.
I can tell you the same thing walking the streets of Jerusalem

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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #129 on: March 13, 2020, 09:18:09 AM »
As a New Yorker I don’t feel he’s been very effective. Walking the streets of NY, other than a run on supermarkets, you’d never know there’s a virus going around.

I'm just curios what you would like to see that would make you know there's a virus
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #130 on: March 13, 2020, 09:19:35 AM »
I'm just curios what you would like to see that would make you know there's a virus
I know there is a virus but I would like to see testing everywhere I go.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #131 on: March 13, 2020, 10:03:07 AM »
Yes, at the very least
I think the CDC doesn't want to use up the limited supply of surgical masks by having hundreds of millions of people using them every day, if everyone had used them we'd have used up billions of masks by now leaving the healthcare system with a terrible shortage which is worse for everyone. If this starts spreading much more we may have no choice, but for now the safer option is leaving them available for the healthcare system.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handling of COVID-19?
« Reply #132 on: March 13, 2020, 10:17:06 AM »
I think the CDC doesn't want to use up the limited supply of surgical masks by having hundreds of millions of people using them every day, if everyone had used them we'd have used up billions of masks by now leaving the healthcare system with a terrible shortage which is worse for everyone. If this starts spreading much more we may have no choice, but for now the safer option is leaving them available for the healthcare system.
Which one is? Do they not work or are they needed for the healthcare system? It can't be both.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handling of COVID-19?
« Reply #133 on: March 13, 2020, 10:26:01 AM »
Which one is? Do they not work or are they needed for the healthcare system? It can't be both.
They don't work to protect the wearer, they protect everyone else. If 1 person is wearing one in public he isn't any better protected (if he is sick the others around him are), if everyone walking around a healthcare facility is wearing one everyone is better protected. The point of the CDC was to inform people that they're not helping themself by wearing a mask.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #134 on: March 13, 2020, 10:27:09 AM »
I think the CDC doesn't want to use up the limited supply of surgical masks by having hundreds of millions of people using them every day, if everyone had used them we'd have used up billions of masks by now leaving the healthcare system with a terrible shortage which is worse for everyone. If this starts spreading much more we may have no choice, but for now the safer option is leaving them available for the healthcare system.

In other words, the CDC claims that masks don't work despite evidence of their effectiveness, because they don't want to get blamed for their complete incompetence and lack of preparedness. I agree with you.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #135 on: March 13, 2020, 10:29:02 AM »
In other words, the CDC claims that masks don't work despite evidence of their effectiveness, because they don't want to get blamed for their complete incompetence and lack of preparedness. I agree with you.
That's not what I said. Is there evidence that wearing a mask significantly protects the wearer?
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #136 on: March 13, 2020, 10:34:40 AM »
That's not what I said. Is there evidence that wearing a mask significantly protects the wearer?

N95 masks and better - yes there is. Surgical masks and worse - does not help significantly.
Though as I mentioned previously - effective also means protecting other people. And there is evidence that masks significantly protect for that.

The CDC is telling everyone that masks are not effective, when if fact they are. They tell people not to buy masks, but if they get a fever, cough or other symptoms, they're not able to buy a mask anymore, and if they're infected they will be infecting others. And even for people without symptoms (but are potentially infected), if the CDC was prepared they would have enough masks stocked up for everyone.
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #137 on: March 13, 2020, 10:35:49 AM »
That's not what I said. Is there evidence that wearing a mask significantly protects the wearer?
Hard to touch your nose and mouth that way, so yes at least in that regard.

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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #138 on: March 13, 2020, 10:40:42 AM »
N95 masks and better - yes there is What about for regular people who don't know how to properly use and remove them? . Surgical masks and worse - does not help significantly.
Though as I mentioned previously - effective also means protecting other people. And there is evidence that masks significantly protect for that. Then the goal is to do what's best for the country, and the answer is not use up all the masks.

The CDC is telling everyone that masks are not effective, when if fact they are. They tell people not to buy masks, but if they get a fever, cough or other symptoms, they're not able to buy a mask anymore, and if they're infected they will be infecting others. If people like you wouldn't have bought them out there would be more available for those who need. And even if for people without symptoms, if the CDC was prepared they would have enough masks stocked up for everyone. Do you believe the CDC should be stocking 10's of billions of surgical masks or more?
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Re: What grade do you give Trump so far for his handeling of COVID-19?
« Reply #139 on: March 13, 2020, 10:42:26 AM »
That's not what I said. Is there evidence that wearing a mask significantly protects the wearer?
Of course there is. Again different masks offer different protection. N95 respirator mask are extremely effective.
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