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Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2020, 10:43:24 AM »
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“Urgent care centers are not testing patients for Coronavirus either because they dont have testing kits or don't want to shut down if a patient is positive, possibility that there are many people with virus walking around”
Person I know well got tested yesterday at an urgent care center.

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2020, 10:45:42 AM »
Person I know well got tested yesterday at an urgent care center.
In NJ?
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2020, 10:47:39 AM »
In NJ?
Brooklyn. NJ isnt testing? Thats why Lakewood has no cases...

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2020, 10:48:41 AM »
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“Urgent care centers are not testing patients for Coronavirus either because they dont have testing kits or don't want to shut down if a patient is positive, possibility that there are many people with virus walking around”
Was it a child? They are not allowing any children to test as they will always come out positive.

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2020, 10:49:54 AM »
Was it a child? They are not allowing any children to test as they will always come out positive.
Really? Why would a child always test positive?

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2020, 10:50:41 AM »
I am curious @yuneeq at what point do you say you were wrong for all the panic?
This isn't about being right or wrong. It is following the advice of the experts. So far they seem spot on. I personally feel they are holding back as not to scare/panic all of us.
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2020, 10:51:39 AM »
I am curious @yuneeq at what point do you say you were wrong for all the panic? If Lakewood continues the way it is and there is no spike in cases and it stays low for the next week is that indicative? 2 weeks? At what point?

Bnei Berak is continuing yeshiva learning as usual. They have seen zero cases. Which is weird considering how close everyone is.

When NJ starts testing people - let’s put it at 500-1000 tests completed.

Was it a child? They are not allowing any children to test as they will always come out positive.

Children don’t always test positive. This is Fake news.
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2020, 10:53:45 AM »
Really? Why would a child always test positive?
As per Dr of affected family

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2020, 10:54:22 AM »
As per Dr of affected family
Interesting. I wonder why that is so.

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2020, 10:54:51 AM »
Complete disaster waiting to happen
Mine too. I davened outside the shul 15 feet from the open door and heard kriays hatorah through the window. Our shteibel (in Boro Park) was packed to the gills for an aufruf  for a chosson who already had a family aufruf last week at a hotel to accommodate his elderly grandparents. The caterer had a kiddush scheduled in the 5 towns that was cancelled friday at 1pm and said he was not really sure why the Rabbi was allowing this aufruf to go forward and the kiddush to happen. He was afraid of the liability towards his employees.

Our Rabbi is head in the sand. He doesnt have a radio, television, internet access etc. Instead of expediting davening he took his time and sent a chazzan up for kabalas shabbos.

Absolute unmitigated disaster waiting to unfold. We had several immuno-compromised older people in shul and one middle-aged guy in a wheel chair after a stroke who came into shul friday night and was hacking away with a runny nose and shabbos morning came back with a mask...around his chin. I feel like I am surrounded by the most irresponsible people.  >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #30 on: March 15, 2020, 10:55:34 AM »
As per Dr of affected family
So then they have no way of knowing if a child has the virus? How would they check for it in children with suppressed immune systems?

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2020, 10:56:00 AM »
Honestly, I told DW this morning that we should get our chicken and potatoes for Pesach ASAP, as the ability to shop in the future is unknown.
Already started buying in small quantities all of last week.
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2020, 11:02:00 AM »
So then they have no way of knowing if a child has the virus? How would they check for it in children with suppressed immune systems?
I left a message with my Dr. Waiting for him to call me back. We'll see what he says.

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2020, 11:03:58 AM »
When NJ starts testing people - let’s put it at 500-1000 tests completed.

Children don’t always test positive. This is Fake news.

So if there are no tests and we still dont see cases over the next week you will still say its crazy?

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2020, 11:05:24 AM »
So if there are no tests and we still dont see cases over the next week you will still say its crazy?
If we see a case will you admit you are wrong?
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2020, 11:10:18 AM »
If we see a case will you admit you are wrong?

Only if it is higher then the national average.

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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2020, 11:26:53 AM »
Only if it is higher then the national average.

If you’re adding that qualifier, I’ll have to say the same for tests completed.
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2020, 11:41:33 AM »
     Worldwide average documented cases was multiplying tenfold every 16 days.  It would take about 1 month to get from 1 case to 100 cases.  At that point people in that community would probably take this seriously and START the protection procedures.  Two weeks later we are up to 1000 cases, two weeks after that...10,000 cases.  From 1 to 10,000 in about two months!!! 
     Those were global statistics.  US is said to be multiplying twice as fast as Italy.  Another figure I saw quoted was doubling the cases every 4-7 days.  That is from 1 case to over 16,000 in less than two months!!     
     We are not talking feeling or opinion here.  We are talking statistics from the reported (less than reality most likely) numbers  by each country.

WHEN WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP???
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2020, 11:43:56 AM »
WHEN WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP???
When someone close them gets it and hopefully not die from it.
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Re: Is your community an overall plus or minus during this crisis?
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2020, 11:45:34 AM »
     Worldwide average documented cases was multiplying tenfold every 16 days.  It would take about 1 month to get from 1 case to 100 cases.  At that point people in that community would probably take this seriously and START the protection procedures.  Two weeks later we are up to 1000 cases, two weeks after that...10,000 cases.  From 1 to 10,000 in about two months!!! 
     Those were global statistics.  US is said to be multiplying twice as fast as Italy.  Another figure I saw quoted was doubling the cases every 4-7 days.  That is from 1 case to over 16,000 in less than two months!!     
     We are not talking feeling or opinion here.  We are talking statistics from the reported (less than reality most likely) numbers reported by each country.
WHEN WILL PEOPLE WAKE UP???

Without a quarantine in place the fact that the US does not have 10k cases is interesting. Israel has had it here for a month with only 200 cases total. 90% of them from people returning from Europe.

Somebody's number is off.