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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #100 on: December 08, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »
Is there any way this person might be able to enter Canada (YYZ) via air from the US and fly YYZ-TLV the next day (or later in the day, but after exiting the airport)?
I did precisely that in October. I arrived in YYZ in the evening and told them I would quarantine in an empty house until my flight the next afternoon. They had no problem with that. (My wife and some of my kids are Canadian)

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #101 on: December 08, 2020, 04:16:23 PM »
I did precisely that in October. I arrived in YYZ in the evening and told them I would quarantine in an empty house until my flight the next afternoon. They had no problem with that. (My wife and some of my kids are Canadian)
YMMV. I'd at least try to say I'm not sure how long I'm staying.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2020, 07:52:12 PM »
Did anyone try calling these numbers?
Canadian border information
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From Canada you can call 800-461-9999

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2020, 08:02:26 PM »
YMMV. I'd at least try to say I'm not sure how long I'm staying.
While they may try to make you problems they have no legal right to do so (if your a Canadian), so while I wouldn't go advertising it, you should be fine nonetheless.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #104 on: December 31, 2020, 07:37:21 PM »
As of Jan 7,  Canada will require passengers aged 5 and up to show a negative PCR test from less than 72 hours before boarding any flight to Canada.

A 14-day quarantine will still be mandatory, and passengers will have to present a quarantine plan. If their plan is deemed inadequate then they may have to quarantine in a government quarantine facility.

I think this is nuts. If requiring a negative PCR test then they should at least shorten the quarantine or just expand the Alberta system ASAP.

ETA: Full government news release here.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #105 on: December 31, 2020, 07:38:20 PM »
Also for land?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #106 on: December 31, 2020, 07:42:30 PM »
Also for land?
No. Full government news release here.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #107 on: December 31, 2020, 08:28:37 PM »
As of Jan 7,  Canada will require passengers aged 5 and up to show a negative PCR test from less than 72 hours before boarding any flight to Canada.

A 14-day quarantine will still be mandatory, and passengers will have to present a quarantine plan. If their plan is deemed inadequate then they may have to quarantine in a government quarantine facility.

I think this is nuts. If requiring a negative PCR test then they should at least shorten the quarantine or just expand the Alberta system ASAP.

ETA: Full government news release here.
The quarantine facility part isn't new, but what if the test is positive?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #108 on: December 31, 2020, 08:33:30 PM »
The quarantine facility part isn't new, but what if the test is positive?
You can't board a flight with a positive test
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #109 on: December 31, 2020, 08:38:24 PM »
You can't board a flight with a positive test
Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #110 on: December 31, 2020, 08:40:23 PM »
Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders
They have turned people back before.. I wouldn't be surprised if that came next.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #111 on: December 31, 2020, 08:41:22 PM »
Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders
Canada entry rules explicitly allow Covid positive Canadians to enter via land, and forbid them from traveling by air.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #112 on: December 31, 2020, 09:48:47 PM »
Canada entry rules explicitly allow Covid positive Canadians to enter via land, and forbid them from traveling by air.

Which makes some sense. They might want to allow them to seek healthcare at home (Canada), but they don’t want them to expose other air passengers to COVID.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #113 on: December 31, 2020, 10:48:53 PM »
FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #114 on: December 31, 2020, 11:20:37 PM »
FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.

Didn’t realize US borders were closed to Canadians in the first place...
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #115 on: December 31, 2020, 11:21:45 PM »
Didn’t realize US borders were closed to Canadians in the first place...
Land borders are closed, air always stayed open.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2020, 11:31:37 PM »
Land borders are closed, air always stayed open.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #118 on: January 06, 2021, 05:04:48 PM »
This starts today. Maybe (hopefully!) this will push the federal government to get the Alberta thing up and running here soon.

https://www.cp24.com/news/province-offering-free-voluntary-covid-19-tests-for-inbound-international-travellers-at-pearson-airport-1.5255339

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2021, 01:21:23 PM »
FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.
I can now confirm that this works, though YMMV. They did make us go into the CBP office and speak to a supervisor as they said that's now protocol, but the supervisor didn't give us a hard time. FWIW, they do want to hear a good justification for why you need to travel.