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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #285 on: February 17, 2021, 07:48:28 PM »
Crazy. Not proud to be a Canadian now. Would love for my parents to be able to come to my simcha, but can't happen with this craziness going on.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #286 on: February 18, 2021, 09:14:46 AM »
Crazy. Not proud to be a Canadian now. Would love for my parents to be able to come to my simcha, but can't happen with this craziness going on.
Isn't that the point of this policy?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #287 on: February 18, 2021, 05:48:43 PM »
Isn't that the point of this policy?

Of course. It's part of the stupidity. They have antibodies and it's still stupid to subject people that have recovered to the same restrictions.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #288 on: February 18, 2021, 06:01:06 PM »
I find it interesting that the government has not opened any sort of booking portal and hotel quarantines are supposed to start in just over 72 hours. I would think the hotels need to know how many guests to expect. Wondering if they're not going to manage to get this up and running in time...

The government's application for hotels seemed to say that they were going to have some sort of portal for travelers to book rooms for their stays:

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4. Basic infrastructure/functional requirements:
  • Online registration, check-in and check-out procedures
  • Note: Travellers will be required to use a 3rd party centralized booking system to reserve and pre-pay their hotel stay
  • Able to load proposed rate for this initiative in the Apollo Global Distribution System (GDS) with a unique rate code. Alternatively, if the property is not on the Apollo GDS, it must be able to provide a unique rate code in order for the identified travel management company to book the rate.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #289 on: February 18, 2021, 06:03:21 PM »
Isn't that the point of this policy?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #290 on: February 18, 2021, 06:29:10 PM »
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #291 on: February 18, 2021, 08:27:20 PM »
Most folks here don't realize that the attitude of about 90% of the Canadian public is that lockdowns are the greatest health gift since antibiotics.
The mayor of Toronto is pleading with the premier of Ontario not to end the lockdown for at least another 2 or 3 weeks. The premier, who is willing to "open up" regular stores for curbside pickup is being slammed by the opposition for his "recklessness".

In the eyes of the Canadian public, if you travel now during the "pandemic" you are simply not a decent human being. Period.

Noone will have any rachmanus.

It behooves us to think of how it looks, when at the border in lacolle or Niagara, the percentage of non commercial travelers that are obviously משלנו is out of all proportion by orders of magnitude to our population. Add to that the numbers of us with some interesting reasons to be "essential" and our image problem is only compounded.

It's easy to say the Canadian government is "crazy". They're actually reflective of a population that is terrified. Us acting like we think it's a joke makes us look like jerks.


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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #292 on: February 18, 2021, 08:28:49 PM »
Most folks here don't realize that the attitude of about 90% of the Canadian public is that lockdowns are the greatest health gift since antibiotics.
The mayor of Toronto is pleading with the premier of Ontario not to end the lockdown for at least another 2 or 3 weeks. The premier, who is willing to "open up" regular stores for curbside pickup is being slammed by the opposition for his "recklessness".

In the eyes of the Canadian public, if you travel now during the "pandemic" you are simply not a decent human being. Period.

Noone will have any rachmanus.

It behooves us to think of how it looks, when at the border in lacolle or Niagara, the percentage of non commercial travelers that are obviously משלנו is out of all proportion by orders of magnitude to our population. Add to that the numbers of us with some interesting reasons to be "essential" and our image problem is only compounded.

It's easy to say the Canadian government is "crazy". They're actually reflective of a population that is terrified. Us acting like we think it's a joke makes us look like jerks.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #293 on: February 18, 2021, 08:47:56 PM »
It's easy to say the Canadian government is "crazy". They're actually reflective of a population that is terrified. Us acting like we think it's a joke makes us look like jerks.

They have a fraction of the COVID deaths (per capita) that the US has. What you call terrified pays off.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #294 on: February 18, 2021, 08:52:58 PM »
They have a fraction of the COVID deaths (per capita) that the US has. What you call terrified pays off.

It comes down to cost effectiveness. Virtually anything can be achieved if you are willing to pay the right price. Many "mishelanu" don't believe the price is right, for whatever reasons.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #295 on: February 18, 2021, 11:06:42 PM »
The Quebec government that passed the curfew, is the same government that passed a ban on government workers wearing a yarmulke. Sorry, I don't care what they think.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #296 on: February 18, 2021, 11:11:49 PM »
And therein lies our problem. When we don't care what the populace thinks of us, we're only asking for trouble.

BTW, the yarmulke ban wasn't targeted at us. It was the hijab that irked them. And FTR, just so that noone could say they were racist, they included crucifixes as well.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #297 on: February 18, 2021, 11:18:29 PM »
The Quebec government that passed the curfew, is the same government that passed a ban on government workers wearing a yarmulke. Sorry, I don't care what they think.

This isn't about the government. He claimed 90% of the public wants certain measures. Do you dispute the fact that most of the Quebec people want these restrictions, or do you also not care what they think?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #298 on: February 18, 2021, 11:23:26 PM »
He claimed 90% of the public wants certain measures.
While certain things are understandable I highly doubt 90% of canadians (or more specifically quebecers) would agree to everything. Imagine having to sneak out of your house to visit ones relative because it's "after 8"..

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #299 on: February 18, 2021, 11:25:17 PM »
https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/montreal/2021/1/19/1_5272915.html

You were right...support for the curfew is only at 81 percent....