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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #80 on: October 18, 2020, 03:10:02 PM »
Do they have any sort of reopening strategy or is the plan to keep postponing it for the next four hundred years?

I've heard rumors that the plan is to reopen it when you finish all your outstanding TR's and are in need of a new destination ... so about 400 years sounds right. :)

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #81 on: October 18, 2020, 03:16:21 PM »
I've heard rumors that the plan is to reopen it when you finish all your outstanding TR's and are in need of a new destination ... so about 400 years sounds right. :)

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #82 on: October 18, 2020, 04:26:09 PM »
The good news is, they still allow one to leave. For now..
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2020, 08:25:41 AM »
New enforcement system being added to Canada's quarantine. Seems like starting in a few weeks you either have to download their app or call an automated line to check in daily. If you don't check in then you're a high priority for law enforcement to come check on you.

Not sure if you have to do anything on the app each day, but if you do then shabbos is going to be an issue. Though if you're keeping the quarantine you shouldn't have an issue with law enforcement showing up....

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2020/11/government-of-canada-announces-new-mandatory-requirements-for-travellers-to-canada.html

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #84 on: November 03, 2020, 10:24:16 AM »
New enforcement system being added to Canada's quarantine. Seems like starting in a few weeks you either have to download their app or call an automated line to check in daily. If you don't check in then you're a high priority for law enforcement to come check on you.

Not sure if you have to do anything on the app each day, but if you do then shabbos is going to be an issue. Though if you're keeping the quarantine you shouldn't have an issue with law enforcement showing up....

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2020/11/government-of-canada-announces-new-mandatory-requirements-for-travellers-to-canada.html

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Travellers who donít use ArriveCAN to submit their information before entering Canada will be required to call the 1-833-641-0343 toll-free number on a daily basis throughout their quarantine or isolation period to provide their post-border information. They will not be able to revert to using ArriveCAN.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2020, 02:16:05 PM »
New enforcement system being added to Canada's quarantine. Seems like starting in a few weeks you either have to download their app or call an automated line to check in daily. If you don't check in then you're a high priority for law enforcement to come check on you.

Not sure if you have to do anything on the app each day, but if you do then shabbos is going to be an issue. Though if you're keeping the quarantine you shouldn't have an issue with law enforcement showing up....

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/news/2020/11/government-of-canada-announces-new-mandatory-requirements-for-travellers-to-canada.html
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2020, 03:01:35 PM »
Shabbos isn't 48 hours

Right. Would potentially be a problem in a 2/3 day YomTov, hopefully COVID will be looooong gone when weíre at that point.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #87 on: November 03, 2020, 03:05:38 PM »
Shabbos isn't 48 hours
People also likely wouldn't arrive on Shabbos :)

I wasn't referring to the initial check-in, I was referring to this:
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Travellers who donít use ArriveCAN to submit their information before entering Canada will be required to call the 1-833-641-0343 toll-free number on a daily basis throughout their quarantine or isolation period to provide their post-border information.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2020, 03:29:16 PM »
People also likely wouldn't arrive on Shabbos :)

I wasn't referring to the initial check-in, I was referring to this:
Why not just use ArriveCAN?!
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #89 on: November 03, 2020, 03:37:42 PM »
Why not just use ArriveCAN?!
Not sure if you have to do anything on the app each day, but if you do then shabbos is going to be an issue.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #90 on: November 03, 2020, 03:38:52 PM »

From the article it's clear you don't..



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From their website it seems clear you do
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #91 on: November 03, 2020, 04:25:20 PM »
People also likely wouldn't arrive on Shabbos :)

I wasn't referring to the initial check-in, I was referring to this:
You can still call every day besides yom tov as mentioned
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2020, 04:21:05 PM »
Someone just called me from EY today asking for travel insurance for a visit to the US and one day in Canada. I knew he's a Canadian, so I didn't question how he planned to enter Canada, but I asked him how he's planning to leave Canada after just one day. He was totally unaware of quarantine requirements (nor did his travel agent know anything about it apparently, as he booked and sold the ticket).

Is there any way this person might be able to enter Canada (YYZ) via air from the US and fly YYZ-TLV the next day (or later in the day, but after exiting the airport)?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »
Someone just called me from EY today asking for travel insurance for a visit to the US and one day in Canada. I knew he's a Canadian, so I didn't question how he planned to enter Canada, but I asked him how he's planning to leave Canada after just one day. He was totally unaware of quarantine requirements (nor did his travel agent know anything about it apparently, as he booked and sold the ticket).

Is there any way this person might be able to enter Canada (YYZ) via air from the US and fly YYZ-TLV the next day (or later in the day, but after exiting the airport)?
My understanding is that they have no way of stopping you from leaving and once they are told you are out of the country it ends.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2020, 06:05:50 PM »
My understanding is that they have no way of stopping you from leaving and once they are told you are out of the country it ends.
+1.

YMMV, but I know many many people who have come and gone within their 14 day quarantine.  I think most just said "I'm not sure how long I'm staying" on the way in, and had no problems on the way out.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2020, 07:30:14 PM »
My understanding is that they have no way of stopping you from leaving and once they are told you are out of the country it ends.

Does @PlatinumGuy concur, or is there something to be concerned about בדיני שמים?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2020, 07:35:12 PM »
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2020, 08:19:05 PM »
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #98 on: December 07, 2020, 08:31:17 PM »
Someone just called me from EY today asking for travel insurance for a visit to the US and one day in Canada. I knew he's a Canadian, so I didn't question how he planned to enter Canada, but I asked him how he's planning to leave Canada after just one day. He was totally unaware of quarantine requirements (nor did his travel agent know anything about it apparently, as he booked and sold the ticket).

Is there any way this person might be able to enter Canada (YYZ) via air from the US and fly YYZ-TLV the next day (or later in the day, but after exiting the airport)?
If he will tell the border agent that he stays for 1 day, he'll be refused entry. You MUST come with the intention of quarantining 14 days,otherwise you'll be sent back even though you're canadian. Unless he is an essential worker or enters for business reasons.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2020, 09:05:17 PM »
If he will tell the border agent that he stays for 1 day, he'll be refused entry. You MUST come with the intention of quarantining 14 days,otherwise you'll be sent back even though you're canadian. Unless he is an essential worker or enters for business reasons.
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Although I wouldn't recommend it.
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