Author Topic: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens (Read 145772 times)

moish · « **Reply #100 on:** December 08, 2020, 03:38:39 PM »

Quote from: ExGingi on December 07, 2020, 04:21:05 PM

Is there any way this person might be able to enter Canada (YYZ) via air from the US and fly YYZ-TLV the next day (or later in the day, but after exiting the airport)?

I did precisely that in October. I arrived in YYZ in the evening and told them I would quarantine in an empty house until my flight the next afternoon. They had no problem with that. (My wife and some of my kids are Canadian)

Yehudaa · « **Reply #101 on:** December 08, 2020, 04:16:23 PM »

Quote from: moish on December 08, 2020, 03:38:39 PM

I did precisely that in October. I arrived in YYZ in the evening and told them I would quarantine in an empty house until my flight the next afternoon. They had no problem with that. (My wife and some of my kids are Canadian)

YMMV. I'd at least try to say I'm not sure how long I'm staying.

lcm · « **Reply #102 on:** December 08, 2020, 07:52:12 PM »

Did anyone try calling these numbers?
Canadian border information
1204-983-3500
1506-636-5064

From Canada you can call 800-461-9999

Health Canada
18337844397

Yo ssi · « **Reply #103 on:** December 08, 2020, 08:02:26 PM »

Quote from: Yehudaa on December 08, 2020, 04:16:23 PM

YMMV. I'd at least try to say I'm not sure how long I'm staying.

While they may try to make you problems they have no legal right to do so (if your a Canadian), so while I wouldn't go advertising it, you should be fine nonetheless.

Yehudaa · « **Reply #104 on:** December 31, 2020, 07:37:21 PM »

As of Jan 7, Canada will require passengers aged 5 and up to show a negative PCR test from less than 72 hours before boarding any flight to Canada.

A 14-day quarantine will still be mandatory, and passengers will have to present a quarantine plan. If their plan is deemed inadequate then they may have to quarantine in a government quarantine facility.

I think this is nuts. If requiring a negative PCR test then they should at least shorten the quarantine or just expand the Alberta system ASAP.

ETA: Full government news release here.

Moshe123 · « **Reply #105 on:** December 31, 2020, 07:38:20 PM »

Also for land?

Yehudaa · « **Reply #106 on:** December 31, 2020, 07:42:30 PM »

Quote from: Moshe123 on December 31, 2020, 07:38:20 PM

Also for land?

No. Full government news release here.

Alexsei · « **Reply #107 on:** December 31, 2020, 08:28:37 PM »

Quote from: Yehudaa on December 31, 2020, 07:37:21 PM

As of Jan 7, Canada will require passengers aged 5 and up to show a negative PCR test from less than 72 hours before boarding any flight to Canada.

A 14-day quarantine will still be mandatory, and passengers will have to present a quarantine plan. If their plan is deemed inadequate then they may have to quarantine in a government quarantine facility.

I think this is nuts. If requiring a negative PCR test then they should at least shorten the quarantine or just expand the Alberta system ASAP.

ETA: Full government news release here.

The quarantine facility part isn't new, but what if the test is positive?

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #108 on:** December 31, 2020, 08:33:30 PM »

Quote from: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 08:28:37 PM

The quarantine facility part isn't new, but what if the test is positive?

You can't board a flight with a positive test

Alexsei · « **Reply #109 on:** December 31, 2020, 08:38:24 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on December 31, 2020, 08:33:30 PM

You can't board a flight with a positive test

Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders

Yo ssi · « **Reply #110 on:** December 31, 2020, 08:40:23 PM »

Quote from: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 08:38:24 PM

Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders

They have turned people back before.. I wouldn't be surprised if that came next.

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #111 on:** December 31, 2020, 08:41:22 PM »

Quote from: Alexsei on December 31, 2020, 08:38:24 PM

Got it, in that case it really wouldn't make sense to implement it for land borders

Canada entry rules explicitly allow Covid positive Canadians to enter via land, and forbid them from traveling by air.

AsherO · « **Reply #112 on:** December 31, 2020, 09:48:47 PM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on December 31, 2020, 08:41:22 PM

Canada entry rules explicitly allow Covid positive Canadians to enter via land, and forbid them from traveling by air.

Which makes some sense. They might want to allow them to seek healthcare at home (Canada), but they don’t want them to expose other air passengers to COVID.

Yehudaa · « **Reply #113 on:** December 31, 2020, 10:48:53 PM »

FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.

AsherO · « **Reply #114 on:** December 31, 2020, 11:20:37 PM »

Quote from: Yehudaa on December 31, 2020, 10:48:53 PM

FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.

Didn’t realize US borders were closed to Canadians in the first place...

Yehudaa · « **Reply #115 on:** December 31, 2020, 11:21:45 PM »

Quote from: AsherO on December 31, 2020, 11:20:37 PM

Didn’t realize US borders were closed to Canadians in the first place...

Land borders are closed, air always stayed open.

aygart · « **Reply #116 on:** December 31, 2020, 11:31:37 PM »

Quote from: Yehudaa on December 31, 2020, 11:21:45 PM

Land borders are closed, air always stayed open.

#science

Yehudaa · « **Reply #117 on:** December 31, 2020, 11:58:50 PM »

Quote from: aygart on December 31, 2020, 11:31:37 PM

#AirlineLobbying

FTFY

Yehudaa · « **Reply #118 on:** January 06, 2021, 05:04:48 PM »

This starts today. Maybe (hopefully!) this will push the federal government to get the Alberta thing up and running here soon.

https://www.cp24.com/news/province-offering-free-voluntary-covid-19-tests-for-inbound-international-travellers-at-pearson-airport-1.5255339

Yehudaa · « **Reply #119 on:** January 13, 2021, 01:21:23 PM »

Quote from: Yehudaa on December 31, 2020, 10:48:53 PM

FWIW, I'm hearing that land crossings into the US are being more lenient about a Canadian entering the US with an American spouse. (People were previously getting turned back.) I spoke to a CBP officer today and he said it's up to the individual CBP officers/supervisor on duty, but recently I'm hearing that some have been successful.

I can now confirm that this works, though YMMV. They did make us go into the CBP office and speak to a supervisor as they said that's now protocol, but the supervisor didn't give us a hard time. FWIW, they do want to hear a good justification for why you need to travel.