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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #140 on: January 14, 2021, 10:02:26 PM »
Does anyone in Florida MIA FLL area know where we can test and what the timeline for results are.
We have to test within 3 days of flight, but also have to make sure results are in....
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #141 on: January 27, 2021, 09:56:29 AM »
Did the  new rules for travel  change anything for driving. Do you need a negative test to enter the US By car?

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #142 on: January 27, 2021, 11:17:59 AM »
Did the  new rules for travel  change anything for driving. Do you need a negative test to enter the US By car?
Nothing changed thus far
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #143 on: January 27, 2021, 01:02:16 PM »
Did the  new rules for travel  change anything for driving. Do you need a negative test to enter the US By car?

Only airline passengers need a test for CA/US

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html#:~:text=On%20January%2012%2C%202021%2C%20CDC,airline%20before%20boarding%20the%20flight.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2021, 12:38:51 PM »
Int'l travelers returning to #Canada 

1. You test negative within 72 hours before your flight
2. You test again upon landing
3. You are quarantined for 3 days at a controlled facility (hotel) you cannot come in contact with anyone
4. Your 2nd test is negative
5. ⁉You still need to quarantine  at home for another 11 days ⁉
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #146 on: January 29, 2021, 12:44:52 PM »
3. You are quarantined for 3 days at a controlled facility (hotel) you cannot come in contact with anyone
At a cost of $2,000+ to be paid by the traveler, which is unsurprising given that our government blew their brains out and spent over $10k/person at the voluntary isolation hotels earlier on in the pandemic.

5. ⁉You still need to quarantine  at home for another 11 days ⁉
Absolutely, with "increased surveillance".

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #147 on: January 29, 2021, 12:46:05 PM »
3 days isn’t the end of the world.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #148 on: January 29, 2021, 12:46:23 PM »
At a cost of $2,000+ to be paid by the traveler, which is unsurprising given that our government blew their brains out and spent over $10k/person at the voluntary isolation hotels earlier on in the pandemic.

That's crazy. For all we know they're going to lose money even after charging $2k+...
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #149 on: January 29, 2021, 12:46:34 PM »
3 days isn’t the end of the world.

Neither is two weeks. Granted two weeks is two long for some situations (e.g. dying relative).
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #150 on: January 29, 2021, 12:50:05 PM »
Up to 3 days isn’t the end of the world.
FTFY

While the headlines all over mention 3 days, the article seems to say "up to" 3 days, which might mean that if negative results come sooner, it could be shorter. But then again we're talking about Canada, how likely is that to happen?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #151 on: January 29, 2021, 12:52:28 PM »
That's crazy. For all we know they're going to lose money even after charging $2k+...
Yes, and CBC thinks that "...The move is not without precedent. Australia has been requiring most travellers to quarantine at a government-arranged hotel for 14 days for $2,800 AUD per adult and $4,620 AUD for a family of four."

They don't seem to realize that $2,800 for 14 days is kinda very different than $2,000+ for 3 days...

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #152 on: January 29, 2021, 12:56:01 PM »
FTFY

While the headlines all over mention 3 days, the article seems to say "up to" 3 days, which might mean that if negative results come sooner, it could be shorter. But then again we're talking about Canada, how likely is that to happen?
Could happen, even in Canada :)

Of the 3 PCR tests that I took at Ontaro testing centers in the past 2 months, I got results for all three within 24-36 hours. I can imagine that they might be slower at the airport than in a hospital but hopefully it'll be less than 3 days.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #153 on: January 29, 2021, 12:57:36 PM »
Yes, and CBC thinks that "...The move is not without precedent. Australia has been requiring most travellers to quarantine at a government-arranged hotel for 14 days for $2,800 AUD per adult and $4,620 AUD for a family of four."

They don't seem to realize that $2,800 for 14 days is kinda very different than $2,000+ for 3 days...
HE didn't say if $2000 is per person? does a couple need to isolate separately until the results are back?
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #154 on: January 29, 2021, 12:58:41 PM »
I think one big question here is land borders. Trudeau said they'll require testing but I'm hearing different things about whether they'll require hotel quarantines...

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #155 on: January 29, 2021, 01:01:12 PM »
Neither is two weeks. Granted two weeks is two long for some situations (e.g. dying relative).
People with dying relatives gets exemptions from everything already. And yes, they're allowed into the hospitals so the risk is large.

Of the 3 PCR tests that I took at Ontaro testing centers in the past 2 months, I got results for all three within 24-36 hours. I can imagine that they might be slower at the airport than in a hospital but hopefully it'll be less than 3 days.
FH Health should be fastest 

They don't seem to realize that $2,800 for 14 days is kinda very different than $2,000+ for 3 days...
If it allows opening the schools soon and keeping them open, 90%+ of the population will be thrilled.

Ontario has en exemplary lockdown ~4500/day around Jan 1, closing schools and other restrictions brought it down to ~1500/day now. Quarantine hotels is the reopening strategy so it isn't seeded again.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #156 on: January 29, 2021, 01:15:37 PM »
HE didn't say if $2000 is per person? does a couple need to isolate separately until the results are back?
I've seen it reported as $2k per person, but I don't remember Trudeau's exact words. You could be right.

FH Health should be fastest 
What's FH Health?

If it allows opening the schools soon and keeping them open, 90%+ of the population will be thrilled.

Ontario has en exemplary lockdown ~4500/day around Jan 1, closing schools and other restrictions brought it down to ~1500/day now. Quarantine hotels is the reopening strategy so it isn't seeded again.
I wasn't commenting on the effectiveness of these hotels. I was only commenting on the excessive cost.

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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #158 on: January 29, 2021, 01:18:08 PM »
I saw Canada is also cancelling all flights to Mexico/Caribbean.
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Re: Canada closing borders to most travellers who are not citizens
« Reply #159 on: January 29, 2021, 01:22:05 PM »
Fast PCRs

https://www.fhhealth.ca
You're not going to have a choice of where to take a test. I assume they'll be doing the tests at the airport or at the hotels and you'll have to wait for the results of whatever test they give.